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I'm a bit confused on Volvo warranty language -- what is the "12 month" period for?<P>"Additional warranties provide coverage for corrosion protection, seat belts, supplemental restraint system, emission systems, genuine Volvo replacement parts, and genuine Volvo accessories. Genuine Volvo accessories installed at delivery are also included within this warranty. A 12-month/12,000-miles adjustment period is included. Consult the 2000/2001 Warranty Information booklet for details."
 

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To what does it entail? New car? Certified Used Car? Parts installed by an authorized Volvo mechanic? I'm not really clear what you are looking for here.
 

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Well, new car.<P>The quote I mention above is from the brochures, which is vague wording if you ask me.<P>Specifically, what is the "12/12,000" clause referring to?<P>Also, I have heard on this, and other boards, that the required service intervals are not free, but cost $100-1000. True?<P>Just want to know what I'm getting into before I buy a Volvo.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kirk:<BR><B><BR>Also, I have heard on this, and other boards, that the required service intervals are not free, but cost $100-1000. True?<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Kirk,<P>Yes, you are correct, the required service intervals are not free and can range from $100-1000 depending on the service required.<P>-Drew
 

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Here's my take on it...<P>Volvo has a 4/50,000 mile warranty which covers new vehicles.<P>In addition to that warranty, there's additional coverage for emissions, the air bag (SRS), seat belts, and corrosion. If I remember correctly, the warranties for these items are longer than the 4/50,000 standard warranty. In some cases, the longer warranty is mandated by the federal government.<P>Finally, any new accessories you purchase with the car (mudflaps, CD changer, etc.) and have installed by the dealer are included in the 4/50,000 warranty.<P>The 1/12,000 clause refers to any adjustments your car may need while new. Things like wheel alignments, squeaks/rattles, etc. are typically covered by this.<P>You might want to confirm with your dealer before purchasing, but this is how typical warranties work.<P>Good luck,<BR>-ema<P>
 

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I'm stunned. Volvo requires that you pay for the scheduled service? That's outrageous. I don't know of any other car company that requires you pay for warranty MANDATED service... for example, Jaguar coversa all service during your warranty period. Can someone correct me if I have the wrong impression here.
 

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You have to compare apples to apples. Sure BMW, jaguar et al may include maintenance, but LOOK AT THE PRICE OF THE CAR!!!! Also, the maintenance is usually limited to the first 2 years/24,000 miles. According to my service department, that works out to around $700. I fail to see the big issue.
 

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kirk, what are you so "stunned" about? free scheduled maintenace (FSM) is a relatively new concept but believe me, it is not free. just like the warranty, it is baked into the price of the car. besides, the service intervals for Volvos are reasonable.
 

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This is my take on it...<P>The (FSM), Free Scheduled Maintenance plans sound nice, but they are not what they are made out to be, for example BMW:<P>BMW pays for scheduled service up to 3 years & 36,000 miles, but only when the car's service indicator lights show it, which can be as much as 10-15k miles. If you have the dealer change the oil before the car says you need it, you have to pay for it, and an oil change at some BMW dealers is a little over $100. Plus, the big ticket service times for most of these cars is past the 36,000 mile mark, such as the 45k, 60k, and 70k mile service.<P>Lexus is know to have the best dealership service and treatment in the business, here are some pricing examples:<P>01' LS430 10,000 mile service - $276.87<BR>99' RX300 45,000 mile service - $987.34<BR>00' ES300 30,000 mile service - $489.56<BR>99' GS400 15,000 mile service - $210.39<BR>99' GS400 60,000 mile service - $895.45<P>Here is a Volvo example, for the 1999 S70 GLT:<P>5k, 15k, 25k, 35k, 45k, 55k, 65k, 75k, 85k, 95k<P>- basic 5k service*
 

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The "stunned" comes from the fact that I was led to believe the maintainance is REQUIRED to upkeep the warranty. If that is not true, then of course the Volvo is the better deal.<P>Thanks for the info on what the maintenance is and the cost. As with most domestic "schedules", a bit of realism on the drivers part as to what truly needs to be changed/serviced will keep you from being "overcharged"<p>[This message has been edited by Kirk (edited 09-07-2001).]
 

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Required maintenance is always required to keep the warranty valid. Otherwise why would you change oil - just go till the engine seizes and change engines. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>As far as the Jag warranty is concerned - I would guess why they cover things is because the quality on the cars was (is?) atrocious. My mother's XJS is still having problems 14 years later. The thing had more miles on the flatbed than on the tires for a year or two.<P>Enhanced warranties usually mean one of two things - either the car is so poor quality its the only way they can sell them (think Hyundai) or the car is so amazingly good that the cost in minimal and can be padded into the list price. You never get something for nothing.<P>When you buy a car include the maintenance in the cost of the car like you should do with the insurance, fuel consumption etc.
 

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Changing oil is one thing. Changing multiple parts prior to wear out is another. My question: does Volvo require extravagant maintenance? From some posts I have seen on Edmunds, etc, this is the case.<P>BTW, I think there is a big difference between a Jag of 14yrs ago and a 2001 model. Just as the Japanese cars have worsened in quality over the past 10 yrs, others have gained. It's a cycle.<P>
 

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Talking with the salesperson at the local dealer, I found out some more on maintenance.<P>When I pressed about the fact almost all other european mfgs provide maintenance for their cars, he indicated (w/ a "nudge, wink")that the 2002 year may see a change in this from Volvo's standpoint.<P>If anyone else hears about this, let me know.
 

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I have no idea where you got this quote for the lexus. I own 3 cars, C240, RX300 and the S60 (previously an S70 and 940)<P>My lexus current had the 48,000km (30K miles) maintenance. It only costed $450cnd. The biggest maintenance according to my dealer will be the 160,000km (100,000miles) one and will cost no more than $600cnd. I say someone is getting severely ripped off!<P>As for the volvo maintenance, it does cost more to maintain than the lexus or the MB. The MB is simple. every 12,000km is the service. the service is either service 1 or service 2 and it alternates. Service one is $130 and service 2 is $250. So, every 48,000 km, the total cost for the MB C240 is under $800 cnd. The Lexus is under $900cnd and the volvo is under $1000cnd. <P>that's my 2 cents.<P>JN<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by InDy:<BR><B>This is my take on it...<P>Lexus is know to have the best dealership service and treatment in the business, here are some pricing examples:<P>01' LS430 10,000 mile service - $276.87<BR>99' RX300 45,000 mile service - $987.34<BR>00' ES300 30,000 mile service - $489.56<BR>99' GS400 15,000 mile service - $210.39<BR>99' GS400 60,000 mile service - $895.45<P>Here is a Volvo example, for the 1999 S70 GLT:<P>5k, 15k, 25k, 35k, 45k, 55k, 65k, 75k, 85k, 95k<P>- basic 5k service*</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
 

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I got those numbers from people living in the United States, which include some Lexus owners on VWVortex and 5 of my friends who happen to own 6 Lexus automobiles. These include 2 RX300's, 1 ES300, 1 LS430, 1 GS400, and 1 LS400. These are mainly prices in the Mid-South, USD. I hope this helps! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>-Drew
 
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