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I currently have a 2000 S70 GLT SE. I am swiftly approaching my mileage limit and am looking for a replacement. My choices are:<P>1) Volvo S60 T5 (or the S60R when available); 2) Audi A4 Quattro (or the S4 when available); 3) Infiniti G35; 4) New 2003 Saab 9-3 (maybe).<P>A few caveats: I have children, so I need room; My wife also drives the car, so I need automatic; I live in the snowbelt, so RWD is a concern; I drive into the inner city and showy cars (BMW, MB) are out.<P>I love my S70, but I want to step up to something with more power. Any suggestions?
 

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Wouldn't you think 19 inch wheels could be a bit showy, too? <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><BR>I hope they won't go that extreme and put 19s on that car once the production version is out. I just don't see they'd be able to put enough rubber in that Volvo to give you enough drive comfort in the 19s.<P>Also if RWD is a concern, you should not consider the G35 either.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Admiral:<BR><B>the S60R when available<P><BR>I drive into the inner city and showy cars (BMW, MB) are out.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
 

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Then why not a 2002 V70T5... or a 2003 XC70?<P>Btw, I don't see how a new Volvo is less 'showy' than a new BMW, etc.... a new car is a new car.
 

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With those caveats in mind, I think that the perfect car for you might be the 03' S60 2.5T AWD, with DSTC. I am not sure, but for a price less than a T5, you could load it up with options as well. The 2.5T engine should be well balanced and quite powerful.<P>The G35 is an awesome machine with VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) standard, but it is a lot more performance oriented with RWD. This is my favorite FR sedan right now.<P>The A4 1.8T or 3.0 QTS would be a good option as well, but the back seating area is small. Of course, the interior and quattro is superb.<P>The new 9-3 looks very promising from a dynamic standpoint, but the initial performance numbers are a little weak compared to the competition. It might be a worth the wait to see if it is good.<P>-Drew
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Admiral:<BR><B>I currently have a 2000 S70 GLT SE. I am swiftly approaching my mileage limit and am looking for a replacement. My choices are:<P>1) Volvo S60 T5 (or the S60R when available); 2) Audi A4 Quattro (or the S4 when available); 3) Infiniti G35; 4) New 2003 Saab 9-3 (maybe).<P>A few caveats: I have children, so I need room; My wife also drives the car, so I need automatic; I live in the snowbelt, so RWD is a concern; I drive into the inner city and showy cars (BMW, MB) are out.<P>I love my S70, but I want to step up to something with more power. Any suggestions?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Well, among the cars you mentioned the S60 T5 and the Infinity G35 standout, from the performance standpoint. But the G35 is RWD do that is out. That leaves the S60 T5 but...if you have kids, think again. Too small for you and you will outgrow it. What about a NICE <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"> V70 T5 or an S80 T6? Both very safe cars, roomy and QUICK! Throw another $1400 and you can add about 50HP to the already impressive 247 and 268, respectively!<P>Yannis<BR><P>
 

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My wife already has the SUV, so I don't need the wagon. As fas as space is concerned, I only need enough to throw the kids in back once and a while.<P>I've seen the spy photos of the S60R and it is not all that dressed up - like the PCC. The cosmetic changes were minor.<P>I think I'll wait for the '03s to come out. It will probably be between the S60 and A4.<P>I welcome any other suggestions.
 

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you may not want to hear this, but i have to be the volvo performance advocate.<BR>I talked to a dealer who probably knows less than we do at this point, anyways...<BR>He said that the release date was extended for 2 reasons (from september to november).<BR>1) To compete with the M3 and other such performance oriented simelar sized cars, the S60R would need the 4-C system, the continually variable chassis system with [Comfort,Luxury, Sport, Advanced Sport]<BR>2) The interior of all the "R" cars have been regarded as superior and excellent compared to most any car out there, they wanted to move to the bolstered seats simelar to BMW-recaro design, while keeping the line of Volvo "R" cues.<P>I say if you can afford to wait, and financially support this automotive venture, do it. There is no car i would rather own other than my current T-5R than the S60R, i think it will be the complete package of performance, luxury, exclusivity and a total screamer/sleeper.<P>
 

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Go Buffs! PSCI '93. A sleeper is exactly what I'm looking for. I'll probably wait until winter or early spring. FYI, I heard next year's G35 will be AWD. Although for safety reasons, I'd prefer to stay with one of the European (Volvo, Audi) brands.<P>
 

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ok, so lets get this str8. You say you want either a S60R or a A4 or a G35??? You went from a $60,000 S60R, and wanting a 30k G35. Plus you have children. The S60R will rip the spinal cords out of your kids backs. just do urself a favor, and get a nice Carivan with the WB package and let ur kids enjoy there childhood before you go race off with them in a S60R. and when looking at cars, stay in one price range, dont go from a bently to a KIA. <BR>WiseGuy
 

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Is the S60 R really going to cost 60k? If that pricing estimate is accurate, I feel Volvo is going to have a horrible chance of competing with the m3 and s4.
 

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Hey, ____Guy ("Wise" intentionally omitted), the M5, goes for just a bit more than $60K. <A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/new/2002/bmw/m5/index.html." TARGET=_blank>http://www.edmunds.com/new/2002/bmw/m5/index.html.</A> <P>As far as the S60R, you're about $15K too high. So...that's about what, a $30K to $35K difference between the S60R and M5? But you think they're in the same class, right? And you're being consistent in comparing the two, right?<P>The S60R, S4 and M3 are all in the same class. The G35, which will come in AWD next year, while not in the same class, is not too far off, boasting more HP than the current S4 (260 v. 250 respectively).<P>And while we're talking about class, why don't you go find some. Keep your snide comments, and the minivan, to yourself.<p>[This message has been edited by Admiral (edited 06-18-2002).]
 
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