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Really, convince me why I should go with the V70. I would like to consider another car other that the Jetta/Passat Wagons.<P>Thanks,<BR>Chuck
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fishhead:<BR><B>Really, convince me why I should go with the V70. I would like to consider another car other that the Jetta/Passat Wagons.<P>Thanks,<BR>Chuck</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You gotta be kidding, right? Comparing the...JETTA wagon with the V70? I can see, perhaps, comparing the Passat with the Volvo but the....JETTA??? And, on top of that, you are 6'3"? You are not even comparing apples to oranges. You are comparing apples to WATERMELONS. I don't want to be presumptious but you are obviously a "payment" or "price" buyer...Which means that the V70 will come in last unless you can find a previously enjoyed one, a.k.a. pre-owned. No VW model will give you the overall roominess, versatility, safety and overall performance of a V70 2.4T or (even better) T5.<P>The VWs are pretty nice cars, especially with the 1.8T engine but they will feel slow, overall, when compared to a 2.4T or a T5. Plus the style (I know, I know, that stuff is purely subjective but....the truth it the truth!) of either VW wagon leaves a lot to be desired.<P>Bite the [financial] bullet and get yourself a nice, pre-owned 2.4T or T5. <P>Yannis<P>
 

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Ok, here's my experience. If price is not a concern because you are going from $23k range to $37k range with these 3 cars.<P>in '01 I purchased an S4 Avant and I struggled with the decision between the V70 T5 and the Avant. I should have went with the T5 because I'd probably still have it. (got laid off had to sell Avant)<P>I looked at the Passat wagon but preferred the looks of the Avant, although the Passat is slightly larger. The V70 probably has more room than the Passat. The '02 Passats are better looking than the '01s. The '03 V70s are getting a slight power bump I believe.<P>The Jetta wagon is nice and if you want to track it on the weekend get the 1.8t or updated 200hp VR6. If you need gas mileage get the diesel. The Jetta wagon is the smallest, better compared against the Volvo V40 wagon.<P>Yannis is right you are comparing apples to oranges when you throw in the Jetta wagon - it's a cool little car but smaller.<P>The T5 is pretty darn quick; handles well. I test drove it 4 times going back to back with the S4 Avant - it was a tough decision. Looking back, for daily use; hauling stuff, the V70 is the better choice. For all out fun, fast, awd, thumb shifters on the steering wheel with the Tiptronic or a 6pd manual the S4 is the trick.<P>If you are considering a new V70 T5 you could also look at a used S4 Avant or a used BMW 740 wagon, Saab 9-5 wagon just to mix it up a bit more.<P>I am a big VW nut and I like the Passat but I am starting to see way too many of them, maybe it's a D.C. thing. The W8 is nice but pricey for a Passat. <P>The Volvo will have more of a "prestige" to it compared to the VW so if you want the neighbors to think you've made it, get the Volvo. If not, gett the Jetta wagon diesel.<P>The V70 T5 will have plenty of scoot, handle well, look good, especially with the 17" rims. You could also look at 2000 V70Rs - Jim has his forsale in the classifieds. I still like the boxy look of the pre-01 Volvos.<P>that's my 1/2 cent.<P>
 

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My sister bought the Passat Wagon V6 4 motion and she loves it. I must say it definitely seems nicer than the newer XCs. My brother and other sister and her husband have all bought new XCs over the last year and they are not big fans so far. The volvo is a little bigger, but the Passat V6 4 motion, especially the W8, has a sportier drive than the XC. Just my two cents.<P>
 

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The XC's aren't supposed to be "Sporty" T5's are sporty. If they wanted a sporty Volvo wagon maybe they should have looked at a T5 instead of an XC which is clearly more utilitarian in design than sporty.<P>Jay
 

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I have a 98 V70 T5 manual, but looked at the Passat 1.8T wagon with a stick before i got this car. No comparison. The VW is peppy, the volvo is just plain fast. Tons of room, much better interior quality and safety features. For the price of a brand new VW passat 1.8T, you could pick up a lightly used V70 T5. You might want to avoid the earlier XC models, as the AWD system is not the best. The newer XC's have a much better system but are also way more $$$.<P>Tony P.<P>98 V70 T5
 

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Tony,<P>You had any problems with the T5? (electrical, transmission, etc.) Additionally, what do you get for gas mileage, how is the ride, and do you still find it to be a good family/sporty vehicle?<P>Chuck
 

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chuck,<P>I've had no problems with this car in the 4 months i've owned it. All of the service records were available for review when i bought the car and nothing was done outside of routine maintenance. I have the manual transmission, which i liked due to it's less technical innards (compared to the automatic) and the driving experience. The T5 is an EXCELLENT balance of family and performance dynamics. My gas mileage is a different story, <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/frown.gif"> since i modified the turbo somewhat i get less mileage. Before the mod, my trip computer was showing 28 mpg average on the highway at 70 mph. Now it's around 26.5 mpg average, but around town it's a lot worse than stock. Still, I can go a almost full week of moderate commuting on one tank of gas.<P>You cannot go wrong with this car. You can email me for a pic if you want <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>Tony <P>98 V70 T5M
 
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