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Volvo tranny fluid worth $100 more than Aisin?!?! (JWS3324)

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In preparation for tranny flush (2014 3.2)...FCP offering both of these fluids. Can someone offer me a reasonable explanation why I should drop an extra Benjamin on Volvo fluid? Premium car premium parts prices I know...and yes I got as far as I cared to through the "ULTIMATE Fluid Guide"...FCP says JWS3324. Just have a few other things I'd prefer to blow a Hunski on rather than a name and fancy jug. Anyone on here actually used BOTH and have a first-hand opinion? Thnx.
 
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Automotive parts aren't priced according to perceived value or acquisition costs. Pricing is performed by algorithm considering factors such as speed of turnover, warranty expense, and competitive advantage. The algorithm has no concept of the part or material value. Manufacturers review fast moving parts and keep the prices low on those items to remove temptation from the automotive aftermarket to manufacture those bits and sell them competitively, amongst other nefarious motives.
In this case, Volvo does not refine petroleum into transmission fluid itself, but rather purchases from suppliers that will meet the stringent specifications. The result is that no smart shopper would buy Volvo fluid, but Dealers are required to, and then sell it to Dealer customers in service work at full pop.
I used Aisin fluid on my last (3309) trans fluid exchange, having full confidence that the company that designed and manufactured my transmission could buy and resell the appropriate fluid, as Aisin doesn't make transmission fluid, either. It was on sale in a kit from FCP. I have heard some folks take advantage of the FCP parts guarantee by shipping the used fluid back and getting the change for nearly free. I just sent a box 8" x 8" x 5" weighing less than pound a distance of 50 miles for $8.20, so I don't think I could even break even on a returns transaction across the country the long way.
 
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It's arguable if it qualifies as a haz mat...
 
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I was turned away at the USPS when I tried to ship Trans Fluid back to FCP. They told me it (and any motor oils) fell under the Haz Mat designation and would only ship if the proper papers and stickers were applied to the box. Either way....always say its Car Parts. Just sayin'
 
owns 2005 Volvo S60 2.5t FWD
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Can't you just use Valvoline Maxlife?!
Especially in these older vehicles.
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You should do just fine with that. In fact, Toyota and Lexus owners considered it an upgrade over WS/3324 for years.

The early years of JWS3324 in usage showed serious problems with it - Toyota was saying to run it 100k miles, but it was frequently failing as early as 60k with excessive slippage. This was especially true in trucks and higher performance cars, like IS and GS models. Owners started using MaxLife and the problems went away.

The complaints have disappered and I suspects some re-engineering went on. But there’s a generation of ownwers from c. 2009 to 2014 who won’t touch WS with a barge pole (I’m one and know several), and use MaxLife instead.
 
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I have been running Toyota Type WS fluid in my TF-80SC Gen II transmissions without problems. I can get it from the Toyota dealer for about 9.50$/L at the dealer with my discounts.
 
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Im runing 17 years almost 400.000 km Mobil 3309 oil. Volvo used only 1 time and price for 1 liter is 3 x times more expensive than Mobil. Not purchased bcs of price but to stop cheating people i this way. Volvo dont produce any oils.
You cant use any cheap oils in vegetable market as Aisin need special oil.
 
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... Anyone on here actually used BOTH and have a first-hand opinion?
Yes, I recently did a couple drain and fills on the coupe, the first time with The Macallan 1926 and the 2nd time, after a slight ponder, the Aisin. I've not looked back...