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So I had this from the mechanic over at Volvo Unionville while he took the car out for a test drive cus the high pitched noise was occuring a lot. Turns it it has something to do with the AC.<p>Anyways, the mechanic said that ever since Volvo released the 3.2L I6 engine, people have been staying away from Volvo cars equipped with that engine due to its fuel consumption and poor reliability. Due to that, Volvo might release it's 2.4L I5 engines again. Is this true?<p>I thought the I6 engine was better than the I5 engine in terms of efficiency and power.
 

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Re: Volvo to release I5 engines again? (geokilla)

I would view anything a mechanic says about upcoming product releases and changes as nothing but speculation. GrecianVolvo, VolvoMax, and some of the other folks on this forum have much greater visibility into what's coming down the pipeline than a dealer mechanic.<p>Having said that, the I5 engine is still in the current lineup, so it doesn't even need to be revived. Volvo just needs to install it in a new model destined for the North American market.
 

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I dont think there are reliability issues with the SI6 but indeed it is thirstier than the I5s.<p>for comparison, a 2.5 I5 turbo can match the 3.2 for power and beat it on fuel consumption.<p>The current V70 is more of a V80 in terms of engines and marketing so volvo has lost out on the mid range 5 cylinder V70 sales. These will hopefully be picked up by the new V60 which grows in size over the current V50 but is smaller than the V70.<p>In Europe, the S80 and V70 are available via the 2.5FT which is an E85 compatible version. Can also run on standard gas. A tri-fuel version is being launched this year which can run on CNG or E85 (and blends) or neat gasoline.<p>The S60 seems to be getting the inline 5 petrols as well. I guess this is the 2.5 FT. Above this, it gets the SI6 3.0 T6 and 3.2 NA.<br>The new D5 features as well.<p>The S60 launch may coincide with the new DI SI6 range (should do!). These engines are a bit late to the party. Two versions, one to replace the 3.2 and one the T6. The V8 will retire to be replaced by the new T6 which beats (or gets very close) the V8 on power and fuel consumption. I still think there is room in the lineup for a V8 but the industry trend is to downsize.<p>Really, the V8 should be kept as a DI version <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> giving the range a V10 type performance model (ideal R series!). Volvo had plans for such a V10 flagship when the gen 1 S80 was in development. A few prototype engines built (info in public domain via SAE paper. Co-developed with Cosworth and based on N series engines architecture).<p>Volvo will probably use the Ford/PSA 2.0 diesel and 1.6 diesel (with volvo engine management software) to give a DRIVe range as well. The Ford 4 cylinder Ecoboost will also probably feature but remember volvo is also working on their own range of 4 cylinder DI engines and 1.6 and 2.0 diesel of their own design. Prob 2013 so Volvo will need to use the Ford 4 cylinders for a little while longer.<p>ideally, volvo should not have bowed to Ford pressure in 2000 and cancelled the then developed SI 4, 5 and 6 cylinder engines..... (these were based on the RN series engines).<p>SI6 evolved from the N3 6 cylinder. Strange volvo didnt make it DI when Ford allowed them to evolve it from the N3 6 cylinder.<p>The D6 was developed, tested but reasoning concluded the market didnt need a 3.0 D6 for the larger volvos. The D5 was seen as adaquate.<p>NB Plug in hybrid with D5 in 2012. Plug in hybrids probably across the whole range
 

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In the Netherlands the IS6 NA has been dropped in favor of the 2.5T (No FT)<br>Even the 200 HP version of the 2.5T showed better behavior compared to the 3.2 6. As of MY2010 the 2.5T comes with the same power as used in the C30/S40/V50, 230 HP.<p>New engine for the XC60..... NA 3.2 6 .. .. Some people over at Volvo marketing really have a screw loose.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Sometimes I think Volvo doesn't want to sell cars.
 

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I think the same! I still drive my 2003 V70R (with 114'000 km.) because there is no alternative in the model-range! There is no possibility to order the I5 with AWD!<p>On the other hand the fuel consumption of the IS6 NA and Turbo are too high and Volvo produce them only with automatic transmission! That's a shame!!!!!!<p>The Volvo marketing departement develop their cars without the customers!<p>muema
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>muema</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Volvo marketing departement develop their cars without the customers!</TD></TR></TABLE><br>So does BMW. But at least BMW is smart enough to make the right decisions on their own... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Well, being a North American, we all know that we won't be getting the diesel engines and the 2.5FT that Shimon mentioned. I seriously want that diesel engine though. So much torque and can easily be modded to produce more horsepower. Plus it's great on fuel economy!<p>A new direct injection I6 eh? Well better late then never I guess. But as you guys all said, I think it'd be better if they kept the I5 and added direct injection to it.<p>I find the NA inline 5 to drink quite a bit of fuel compared to the NA I4 engines that other manufactuers are producing, such as the ones used in the Accord and Camry. I had a post bout this on another forum.
 

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in theory...volvo can downsize the new DI SI6 to make a DI SI4, volvo own petrol DI. Volvo's working on their own 4 cylinder petrols and diesels anyway.<p>given the output of the new DI 4s, a 5 cylinder wouldnt be needed to bridge the gap between the higher power 4 and the SI6 DI.<p>D5 is under evaluation for the US as is the 2.0D. You might even get the DRIVe range.
 
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