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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Various Asian sources are reporting that Ford sold Volvo to the Chinese carmaker Geely.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://xxlpay.com/volvo-sold-to-china" TARGET="_blank">http://xxlpay.com/volvo-sold-to-china</A><br><A HREF="http://motorpulse.com/story/view/china-companies-shopping-spree" TARGET="_blank">http://motorpulse.com/story/vi...spree</A><br><A HREF="http://forums.motivemag.com/zerothread?id=4438907" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.motivemag.com/zerothread?id=4438907</A><p><IMG SRC="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/06/china_flag_large_opta.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (mdms)

Ford quashed all rumors about this a couple months ago. Of all the American auto makers, Ford is the strongest. They do need more working capital to continue their expansion to compete with the other import manufacturers, but from what I've read, Ford isn't willing to liquidate one of their strongest branches to do that. Ford isn't letting Volvo go any time soon...
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (mdms)

<A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=120687" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=120687</A>
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (S40Racer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>S40Racer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ford quashed all rumors about this a couple months ago. Of all the American auto makers, Ford is the strongest. They do need more working capital to continue their expansion to compete with the other import manufacturers, but from what I've read, Ford isn't willing to liquidate one of their strongest branches to do that. Ford isn't letting Volvo go any time soon...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What he said.
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (BtownVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BtownVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>What he said.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>+1.... W-O-R-D
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BtownVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>What he said.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>...and to think, I'm not even 21. Enjoy that econ action! I can't wait for next semester. International and transportation economics will be added to my arsenal.
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (S40Racer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>S40Racer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ford quashed all rumors about this a couple months ago. Of all the American auto makers, Ford is the strongest. They do need more working capital to continue their expansion to compete with the other import manufacturers, but from what I've read, Ford isn't willing to liquidate one of their strongest branches to do that. Ford isn't letting Volvo go any time soon...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed. Volvo's are selling well right now...Better number's than BMW. Have you seen their number of lease returns this quarter? Ridiculous!
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (Mach_T5)

Glad to hear they're doing well. From the looks of my dealership I wouldn't have guessed. It's looking very stark and they've done away with loaner cars altogether.
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (Mach_T5)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mach_T5</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Agreed. Volvo's are selling well right now...Better number's than BMW. Have you seen their number of lease returns this quarter? Ridiculous! </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm not sure how you arrive at this conclusion. Here are the numbers:<p>..............May 2009 2008 %Chg YTD 2009 2008 %Chg<br>Volvo Brand 5,577 7,238 -22.9 22,704 39,180 -42.1<p>(sorry about the poor formatting)<p>Compare this to BMW's statistics for the same period:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With 18,383 vehicles sold, the BMW brand reported its best month so far this year. Compared to the 25,469 vehicles reported in the same month a year ago, this is a decrease of 27.8 percent. Year-to-date, BMW brand sales were down 30.5 percent to 76,819 vehicles compared to 110,569 vehicles sold in the same period of 2008.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (Munin)

Well, here's a little more economics to explain the numbers. BMW has better brand recognition than Volvo does. With this power, they have more of a bandwagon effect than Volvo. People see BMW as a status symbol and are willing to pay more to be with the "in" crowd. I would be willing to wager that 90% of the people who drive 335's don't even know or care that they have a twin turbo 6 cylinder producing 300hp. They bought it because it is the top of the line, and they can look down on the people who drive 325's and 330's (I understand that the M3 is the top of the line, but even bandwagoners rarely are willing to drop 85000) <p>Volvo does much of its sales because of a thing called brand loyalty. Just as you'd probably be more willing to use Duracell batteries over Energizer if that's all you've used your entire life. They may not be better batteries, but you're familiar with them. I know that I will buy Volvos for the rest of my life, not because they are the best value or the best made car on the road, but because I like them and they are comfortable for me.<p>BMW would be better compared to Audi and Mercedes... Volvos numbers are good in their own right, and compared to the other brands that FoMoCo offers, Volvo is near the top of the list...<p>Again, I stand by my opinion that Ford will not let Volvo go. Word.
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (volvov7098)

is there a way to look up the production numbers for our cars? I thought Volvo was pretty hush hush about making complete sales figures public. <br>I would like to know how many 2006 S40 T5's were ordered like mine. I really don't see many that have the full body kit and leather interior in AZ. I think in 3 years I have only seen one other like mine.
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (S40Racer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>S40Racer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, here's a little more economics to explain the numbers. BMW has better brand recognition than Volvo does. With this power, they have more of a bandwagon effect than Volvo. People see BMW as a status symbol and are willing to pay more to be with the "in" crowd. I would be willing to wager that 90% of the people who drive 335's don't even know or care that they have a twin turbo 6 cylinder producing 300hp. They bought it because it is the top of the line, and they can look down on the people who drive 325's and 330's (I understand that the M3 is the top of the line, but even bandwagoners rarely are willing to drop 85000) <p>Volvo does much of its sales because of a thing called brand loyalty. Just as you'd probably be more willing to use Duracell batteries over Energizer if that's all you've used your entire life. They may not be better batteries, but you're familiar with them. I know that I will buy Volvos for the rest of my life, not because they are the best value or the best made car on the road, but because I like them and they are comfortable for me.<p>BMW would be better compared to Audi and Mercedes... Volvos numbers are good in their own right, and compared to the other brands that FoMoCo offers, Volvo is near the top of the list...<p>Again, I stand by my opinion that Ford will not let Volvo go. Word.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>this guy i talk to about cars at work used to have a few bmws and loved them, and all he can say about them now is "yuppies ruined bmw", yeah you're definitely right about bmw being a status car, and most people who buy them cant even come close to appreciating them. another guy at work let me drive his 328i and I loved it, I explained to him why and he was like oh i didnt notice any of those things. oh well
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (dannyman1035)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dannyman1035</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>this guy i talk to about cars at work used to have a few bmws and loved them, and all he can say about them now is "yuppies ruined bmw", yeah you're definitely right about bmw being a status car, and most people who buy them cant even come close to appreciating them. another guy at work let me drive his 328i and I loved it, I explained to him why and he was like oh i didnt notice any of those things. oh well</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Exactly. The same thing happens to most of the people I run into that drive BMWs. My good friend has a 335 and absolutely trashes it (the sticker on it when he brought it home after mommy and daddy bought it for him was over 58 grand!). When I show him parts and what his car could look like all he says is "naw, I just can't get my head around spending money on a car that runs". WHAT?!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!?! He sits there playing WOW all day long and blows money on premium Disneyland passes every year, but won't buy a $55 tint kit for his tails? Some people baffle me... Hence how I arrived at my conclusion about many BMW owners. Yes, there are enthusiasts who appreciate them, but there are many more that probably don't even know how to turn their fog lights on...
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (x-omatic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>x-omatic</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there a way to look up the production numbers for our cars? I thought Volvo was pretty hush hush about making complete sales figures public.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't know of a source that has global production numbers. But you can get U.S. sales by model easily. For example, look at the very bottom of:<p><A HREF="http://www.marke****ch.com/story/strong-new-products-drive-ford-sales-share-in-may?newsid=961711644&dist=bigchartssymb%3DF&sid=205397" TARGET="_blank">http://www.marke****ch.com/sto...05397</A><p>You can also get statistics by model for at least some other markets, including Sweden.
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (Munin)

<A HREF="http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/18/report-geely-agrees-to-buy-volvo-ford-silent/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoblog.com/2009/0...lent/</A>
 

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Re: Volvo sold to China (S40Racer)

a fifthy eight thousand dollar 335? really.... and thats one person and bmws look messed up when there modifed
 
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