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The service manager said that I need a new PCV trap in my '04 R and that without it I'll leak oil. Anyone familiar with this part and is it priced correctly at $850 including labor? I checked the archives and couldn't find anything on this subject. I've got a little over 100,000 miles on the car.<p>Thanks, JRC<p><br><i>Modified by JimiRayClapton at 1:45 PM 4-17-2009</i><BR><BR>
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Re: Volvo says I need a new PCV trap for my R? What is it? (JimiRayClapton)

Here's what it is:<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=116723" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=116723</A><p>I don't have access to VADIS at the moment to check the labor time for the procedure, but it is buried under the intake manifold. Some of the techs here could probably chime in about how long of a job it is. <p>I recall in the past seeing that it has been a pricey repair.
 

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I found a photo of the pvc trap, (oil trap). This is for an 95 850 but it will give you an idea of what the dealer is talking about. The oil trap is under the intake manifold, thus the manifold has to be removed. The dealer is probably replacing all of the parts included in the photo.<br><A HREF="http://www.eeuroparts.com/Main/PartsResults.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://www.eeuroparts.com/Main/PartsResults.aspx</A><br>
 

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Thanks everyone. Sounds like something I have to take care of and that I'm, indeed, on the hook for $850 (less a 10% discount if my dealer sends out a service coupon). <p>In the meantime, I was instructed to leave the dipstick up a little to let gas escape and that should buy me a little time.<p>I appreciate your help and will keep checking this thread.
 

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Labor time hsould be around 2.5-3 off the top of my head i think it should be closer to a $500-$600 at the most it all depens on what else they are "throwing in" with the oil trap and how much they mark up there prices<br>Also yes it is very importtant and actualy volvo recomends that the PCV nipple behind the trap is cleaned at 60k miles but if your going to take it off to clean you well as just replace so we do them around 60K here im about to do mine on my R next week <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: (97GLTbrick)

the intake manifold needs to be removed or can it be worked around? 850 for this seems like a ludicrous quote.
 

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We always remove the intake here at the shop but still i would say no more that 3 hours lobor even at $100 an hour ( we are $80 though) plus parts should be no more than 500-600 but they could be raping you on parts i kmnow when i was at the dealer we chagred like 30 percent over the list for parts and they get parts cheeper than list and here at the indepent volvo shop we charge list we dont belive in raping people on price i gues sthats why the dealer shut down i was at
 

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Again, thanks everyone. Based on your responses, at $765 ($850 less my coupon discount) I'd be overpaying big time. Labor cost at the Volvo dealers in Fairfield County, CT, is $119/hr which explains it. Sheesh.<p>Do I have to do it immediately?
 

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Re: (JimiRayClapton)

Give bbVign a shout via PM. He had a good indie that he used for "other work" on both his R's. <p>Which dealer are you getting quoted by?<p>
 

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I recently changed mine, and no, you don't "have to" remove the int. manifold. <br>Here's the parts:<br><A HREF="http://www.ipdusa.com/Volvo-S60/Filters-&-Tune-Up/PCV-S60-Turbo/p-74-396-4736" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ipdusa.com/Volvo-S6...-4736</A>/<p> I had to remove:<br>Air box<br>both charge pipes<br>TB (to clean it)<br>spark plug cover (to get to valve cover hose)<p>I say do it yourself (if you're mechanically inclined), or pay an indy to do it.<br>It took me prolly 4 hrs total to disassemble everything, clean my TB, go to a local parts store to pick up some clamps, drink a few <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> and put everything back together. <p>Let me know if you got any ?'s<p>BTW, where are you leaking oil? <p>
 

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Re: Volvo says I need a new PCV trap for my R? What is it? (JimiRayClapton)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimiRayClapton</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The service manager said that I need a new PCV trap in my '04 R and that without it I'll leak oil.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I wonder WHY your "engine" needed one. You had a faultcode? It's not stated in the EU as a service-part at a certain milage. If your engine produce's too much pressure you probably have a screwed-up one ( read as one with F-word) In the EU since 1999 we removed the oil-trap (volvo TNN even <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> !!!!!) .,, the plastic trap was only still needed for the cars that were modified to run on liquid propane (to not get an explosion "IF"). Think the EU R's don't even have a that plastic " bee-house" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Volvo of Stamford gave me the quote. But I also use Volvo of Westport which is here in town and priced similarly.
 

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Re: Volvo says I need a new PCV trap for my R? What is it? (JARMO)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JARMO</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I wonder WHY your "engine" needed one. You had a faultcode? It's not stated in the EU as a service-part at a certain milage. If your engine produce's too much pressure you probably have a screwed-up one ( read as one with F-word) In the EU since 1999 we removed the oil-trap (volvo TNN even <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> !!!!!) .,, the plastic trap was only still needed for the cars that were modified to run on liquid propane (to not get an explosion "IF"). Think the EU R's don't even have a that plastic " bee-house" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you sure that you aren't thinking of the flame trap? There was a TNN for removal on that, but I've never seen anything about removing the oil trap catch can.
 

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I think I have to do this too.<p>After 3k miles, my oil is about 2/3 full. From completely full before.
 

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I'm fairly certain that is being confused with the flame trap. I don't think it can be removed, as it's part of the PCV/emissions system.
 

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The oil trap at the front side of the engine (BTW it's not a flame trap--it just coalesces PCV oil vapors back into liquid form) usually doesn't leak...but its seals sure do with age and miles.<p>Other P2 Volvos share the same oil trap setup. That said, I DIY'd the replacement of the oil trap seals on a '02 S80 T6 a while back. I did have to pull the intake manifold but the entire job was very straight forward.
 

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max...how did you do this without pulling the intake. I have this part and some hoses and was looking at it while i did my plugs today. I see no way to get at it without pulling the intake, which I would hate to do.<p>For the techs, if I pull the intake, are there any calibrations that need to be done afterwards? And can the fuel rail stay attached to the intake when it's removed?
 
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