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Under heavy camo.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/spyshots-2017-volvo-s90-t8-plug-in-hybrid-prototype-99704.html#
 

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Wow...looks like a vehicle from the Mad Max movies.
 

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It's September 9, still testing under cover? Where/when is the reveal?! Tic-toc.
 

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Image 11 seems to show the rear central seatbelt emerging from the rear window shelf, suggesting the car does not have a hatch. Also, the trunk lid opens down to the rear bumper, therefore including the inner rear lights, unlike the Chinese model.
 

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Image 11 seems to show the rear central seatbelt emerging from the rear window shelf, suggesting the car does not have a hatch. Also, the trunk lid opens down to the rear bumper, therefore including the inner rear lights, unlike the Chinese model.
Yep, it would be quite irregular for a luxury car company's "flagship" to have a hatchback configuration, especially if they are counting on the N. American market for decent volume. As much as I would personally prefer a luxo-hatch over a sedan, cars like the A7 and 5 Series GT, are only niche products here in the U.S.

Speaking of hatches, has there been a final decision on a production version of the Shooting Brake concept?
 

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I see similar seats (Amber/Black) from the XC90. I was hoping for Volvo to push the envelope with the S90. Disappointing. Mercedes Benz looking better and better:facepalm:
 

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Yep, it would be quite irregular for a luxury car company's "flagship" to have a hatchback configuration, especially if they are counting on the N. American market for decent volume. As much as I would personally prefer a luxo-hatch over a sedan, cars like the A7 and 5 Series GT, are only niche products here in the U.S.

Speaking of hatches, has there been a final decision on a production version of the Shooting Brake concept?
They first build the sedan flagship, then there is the wagon/CC. Maybe hatchback is an easy enough variation that is only different in several body panels and trunk lid so they probably could be interested to build one if demands shows up.

The Shooting Brake probably will be evaluated the earliest when design and development work on 60 series are close to finish. If it is built eventually then I see no reason to build a 4 door hatchback. Or, build a Shooting brake of V60 size, and a 4door hatch with V90 size. That would be perfect. :)
 

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Yep, it would be quite irregular for a luxury car company's "flagship" to have a hatchback configuration, especially if they are counting on the N. American market for decent volume. As much as I would personally prefer a luxo-hatch over a sedan, cars like the A7 and 5 Series GT, are only niche products here in the U.S.

Speaking of hatches, has there been a final decision on a production version of the Shooting Brake concept?
Likewise China and Russia, where buyers are worried about the cold getting into the cabin when loading and unloading luggage. Though Volvo answered that concern very well with the internal partition in the XC90 Excellence, and hatches don't seem to have harmed sales of the Tesla S and Porsche Panamera.

I doubt we'll see production versions of any of the two door concepts, but I hope I'm wrong. Certainly the S90 shows more influence from the concepts than I expected, and I expect the V90 to follow the Break's sloped rear window rather than the more traditional upright Volvo look that is still with us on the V70.
 

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Likewise China and Russia, where buyers are worried about the cold getting into the cabin when loading and unloading luggage. Though Volvo answered that concern very well with the internal partition in the XC90 Excellence, and hatches don't seem to have harmed sales of the Tesla S and Porsche Panamera.

I doubt we'll see production versions of any of the two door concepts, but I hope I'm wrong. Certainly the S90 shows more influence from the concepts than I expected, and I expect the V90 to follow the Break's sloped rear window rather than the more traditional upright Volvo look that is still with us on the V70.
While the sloped roofline looks great, you lose a lot of functionality with it. I love the look of my V60, but when compared to the V70, it's cargo usefulness seriously is lacking. The shape of the rear entry is so odd that fitting large boxes or really anything large is just a pain. Once you have anything in the car, the V60 has ample room, but because of that sloped roofline, getting stuff in/out is a huge pain. The Model S can get away with it because it has a gigantic hatch and has endless amounts of storage both in back and in the frunk but it does limit rear headroom. People 6ft will hit their head in the back of Model S without the Panoramic roof which adds about 1" of head clearance.
 

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Yep, it would be quite irregular for a luxury car company's "flagship" to have a hatchback configuration, especially if they are counting on the N. American market for decent volume. As much as I would personally prefer a luxo-hatch over a sedan, cars like the A7 and 5 Series GT, are only niche products here in the U.S.
The Model S, Panamera, and A7 have really been doing a lot to change that attitude.

In our little corner (NY metro) and I believe also in the LA area, the new form factors are more in demand than the land yacht sedans. Cars like these and the traditional-trunked four-door coupes like the CLS and 6-series GC have been replacing a lot of the S-Classes and A8's. Even in our super affluent area, the S-Class has become a rare find - it used to be very popular, especially on the lower end (S430 then S550).

I'm curious whether this will spread or stay isolated to trendy areas like NY and LA. I'm also curious whether it's just a fad or if the traditional sedan will become less popular over time, with people who need the larger more practical vehicles continuing to opt for crossovers and those who want something more sporty moving largely to these 4-door coupe designs, with or without a hatch on the back.
 

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Likewise China and Russia, where buyers are worried about the cold getting into the cabin when loading and unloading luggage. Though Volvo answered that concern very well with the internal partition in the XC90 Excellence, and hatches don't seem to have harmed sales of the Tesla S and Porsche Panamera.

I doubt we'll see production versions of any of the two door concepts, but I hope I'm wrong. Certainly the S90 shows more influence from the concepts than I expected, and I expect the V90 to follow the Break's sloped rear window rather than the more traditional upright Volvo look that is still with us on the V70.
If the recently shown Chinese diecast model car of the S90 has any reality to it, they have not gone far enough in transferring the Concept's styling cues/language. All I see are front and rear headlight designs reminiscent of the XC90 (and the Concepts). Little else appears borrowed from the Concept cars. Let's hope the final released car has more character and Concept transfer in it's overall design, and that the model car is only a guess. A downsized or sedan-ized XC90 will not suffice.
 

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The biggest difference between the model and the actual car is going to come in terms of fine details not captured at small scale and material textures.

Just look at any die cast model for a car you consider really beautiful and it's easy to see that the models capture the design language but not the beauty.
 

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The Model S, Panamera, and A7 have really been doing a lot to change that attitude.

In our little corner (NY metro) and I believe also in the LA area, the new form factors are more in demand than the land yacht sedans. Cars like these and the traditional-trunked four-door coupes like the CLS and 6-series GC have been replacing a lot of the S-Classes and A8's. Even in our super affluent area, the S-Class has become a rare find - it used to be very popular, especially on the lower end (S430 then S550).

I'm curious whether this will spread or stay isolated to trendy areas like NY and LA. I'm also curious whether it's just a fad or if the traditional sedan will become less popular over time, with people who need the larger more practical vehicles continuing to opt for crossovers and those who want something more sporty moving largely to these 4-door coupe designs, with or without a hatch on the back.
The new design target, if I were calling the shots:


 
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