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Yesterday while using the Garmin, the BW decided she wanted something from Starbucks. So she punched it into the Garmin, got the location, and the question "Do you want to do a detour?" Answer: "Yes."<p>My understanding is that the current Volvo navigation system does not allow "input" while the car is in motion? Is that correct? Does that mean one would have to stop the car to enter a detour like the above?<p>Thanks,
 

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Re: Volvo Navigation System ? (Sausca)

My 2005 V50 nav allows me to input everything on the fly, original destinations and added waypoints.<p>It is my understanding that newer ('07 and up) do not allow you to do much while the vehicle is in motion. But I remember a post by Yannis indicating that you can add waypoints for points of interest (gas, atms, etc.) while the vehicle is in motion.<p>The system has also switched from dvd only to dvd+hard drive. I am picking up a 2009 XC70 T6 at the factory in a couple of weeks, I'll let you know how the new system works if I'm fortunate enough to borrow euro disks from the fdc.<p>If the new system is too disabled for my taste while the vehicle is in motion, I may try and swap the unit from my V50 before I sell it.
 

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Re: Volvo Navigation System ? (Sausca)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sausca</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yesterday while using the Garmin, the BW decided she wanted something from Starbucks. So she punched it into the Garmin, got the location, and the question "Do you want to do a detour?" Answer: "Yes."<p>My understanding is that the current Volvo navigation system does not allow "input" while the car is in motion? Is that correct? Does that mean one would have to stop the car to enter a detour like the above?<p>Thanks,</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Depends on the car. XC90s will allow you. Same goes for S60s and S40s. New V70s/XC70s, S80s will not let you input while the car is in motion other than detour <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> and changing the scale or finding restaurants, etc. around the car.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: Volvo Navigation System ? (KeystoneVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KeystoneVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> New V70s/XC70s, S80s will not let you input while the car is in motion other than detour <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> and changing the scale or finding restaurants, etc. around the car.<br>Yannis</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't get it. What if you're on the freeway and your passenger is there as your co-pilot? Excuse me for my ignorance as I'm not sure how the Volvo nav inputs work. Is it steering wheel? Voice? A knob like BMW iDrive or Audi MMI? But surely you have to be able somehow to get info while driving? I have to pull over on a busy freeway? Please explain to someone like me with my little pea-brain. <br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>vovofreek</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I don't get it. What if you're on the freeway and your passenger is there as your co-pilot? Excuse me for my ignorance as I'm not sure how the Volvo nav inputs work. Is it steering wheel? Voice? A knob like BMW iDrive or Audi MMI? But surely you have to be able somehow to get info while driving? I have to pull over on a busy freeway? Please explain to someone like me with my little pea-brain. <br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Input can be entered through the steering wheel-mounted controls or via a remote control device.<p>Yannis
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KeystoneVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Input can be entered through the steering wheel-mounted controls or via a remote control device.<p>Yannis</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks, but why did you say it can't be done while the vehicle is in motion? That's what confuses me.<p>So, it's input by controls mounted on the steering wheel (no voice?) and/or a remote device. But can either be used while in motion? Or perhaps just the device by the passenger?<br>Thanks again.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>vovofreek</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Thanks, but why did you say it can't be done while the vehicle is in motion? That's what confuses me.<p>So, it's input by controls mounted on the steering wheel (no voice?) and/or a remote device. But can either be used while in motion? Or perhaps just the device by the passenger?<br>Thanks again.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>On some models (i.e. S80, XC70 and V70) the controls are disabled if you go 5mph or faster. You can only access detour, scale and finding restaurants, etc.<p>I was just replying to your question re: where the controls are.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: Volvo Navigation System ? (GrecianVolvo)

Thanks. So the so-called "disablement" is no big deal. As long as you can enter a new address as a detour, and search for POIs, it would appear to be a minor inconvenience that you cannot enter a new destination.<p><br>
 

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Re: Volvo Navigation System ? (Sausca)

On the S60 I find the NAV system is very driver-centric: the NAV screen angles towards the driver and the controls are on the steering wheel, as well as the remote. Because of the setup, it's not entirely convenient for the passenger to operate. In light of more recent developments this may be a deficiency, but when NAV was first put into S60s it was still a period of experimentation with the technology.<p>Personally I would only enter directions on the fly using a voice GPS. I don't want to take my eyes off the road and one of my hands off the wheel long enough to poke instructions into a little screen.
 

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Re: Volvo Navigation System ? (Sausca)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sausca</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks. So the so-called "disablement" is no big deal. As long as you can enter a new address as a detour, and search for POIs, it would appear to be a minor inconvenience that you cannot enter a new destination.<p><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You will not be able to enter a new address as a detour. You can choose the detour option and it will let you detour whatever miles ahead you choose so you can still arrive at your intended/programmed destination.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: Volvo Navigation System ? (GrecianVolvo)

Grecian, in all seriousness, why would anyone buy for BIG BUCKS such a user unfriendly system? Especially when you can get a Garmin for $300.00 that the passenger can operate or for $850 you can get the top of the line Garmin system that will do everything short of scratching your "back". Call me negative, but Volvo strikes out again.<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sausca</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Grecian, in all seriousness, why would anyone buy for BIG BUCKS such a user unfriendly system? Especially when you can get a Garmin for $300.00 that the passenger can operate or for $850 you can get the top of the line Garmin system that will do everything short of scratching your "back". Call me negative, but Volvo strikes out again.<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You ARE negative but I can appreciate your points. Volvo's system is not the only factory system that functions in that manner. <p>The Garmin (and any other portable system that is similar) is great and, probably, has more data stored. Nevertheless, it's not fully integrated, you have to reach forward to touch the screen and the screen is a lot smaller. <p>I have spent EXTENSIVE periods of time working with both formats; I can find pros and cons with both. At the same time, the "outdated" Volvo Navigation System has rarely failed me (if ever), I can work it almost with my eyes closed and has proven to be sufficient for me. But heck, I drove from Pennsylvania to California with a "puny" (and VERY USER UNFRIENDLY) Garmin iQue3600 with no problems whatsoever... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Yannis
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sausca</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Grecian, in all seriousness, why would anyone buy for BIG BUCKS such a user unfriendly system? Especially when you can get a Garmin for $300.00 that the passenger can operate or for $850 you can get the top of the line Garmin system that will do everything short of scratching your "back". Call me negative, but Volvo strikes out again.<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I can go even further - why anyone wants to pay $2000+ for ANY system in ANY car?<br>Current portable GPS are reaching the state of art, and you can share one among multiple cars. My TomTom is shared by 4 drivers now.<p>Now, blacking-out non-routing functions during the driving is not such a bad idea. In our company we black-out practically all functions in our service trucks, and this is a common practice across the board for public utilities. There were studies showing measurable reduction in accident rate.<p>I know - we are super-drivers here on SS, but touching screen and entering data is very distracting, the less you do it, the better you off.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gascos80</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I know - we are super-drivers here on SS, but touching screen and entering data is very distracting, the less you do it, the better you off.</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Yep, we all attneded the same driving school Michael Schumacher did... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Yannis
 

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You guys may go on and on about the positive and negative attributes of Volvo's navigational system but let me tell you about MY experiences.<p>1.) I'm deaf, which means I can't hear and that makes voice prompts useless<br>2.) that requires a nav system that's at eye level<br>3.) the bigger the screen, the better as I can see more detail<p>= Volvo's nav system is the best for <B>MY</B> needs, and IMHO is much more user friendly than the systems used in BMW, MB, and Audi.<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>njb8199</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys may go on and on about the positive and negative attributes of Volvo's navigational system but let me tell you about MY experiences.<p>1.) I'm deaf, which means I can't hear and that makes voice prompts useless<br>2.) that requires a nav system that's at eye level<br>3.) the bigger the screen, the better as I can see more detail<p>= Volvo's nav system is the best for <B>MY</B> needs, and IMHO is much more user friendly than the systems used in BMW, MB, and Audi.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nick,<p>I HEAR you (pun intended). I am farsighted and cannot really read the screen, regardless the size. I can see the roads and a car symbol following the road, but do see clearly street names or any other on-screen information that appears in a smaller font. And I need reading glasses to enter any additional information, so I have to do it when I am not driving anyway.<p>So, $400 top of the line TomTom with real-time traffic info, calculating the shortest route around the traffic congestions and advising me in Susanne's voice - "route was recalculated and changed" every 2-3 min. is all I need.<p>And for almost a year, till I've got my new toy (08 S80) with the integrated Bluetooth, it also was very handy (again, pun intended) for the hands-free phone calls.<p>And there are mounts that keep third party GPS devices in exactly the same position as Volvo's OEM screen - right above the dashboard. I think even the suction cup mount that included with my devices does that.<p>I use a lower positioned mount for a convinience of sharing the device among 4 cars.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gascos80</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Nick,<p>I HEAR you (pun intended). I am farsighted and cannot really read the screen, regardless the size. I can see the roads and a car symbol following the road, but do see clearly street names or any other on-screen information that appears in a smaller font. And I need reading glasses to enter any additional information, so I have to do it when I am not driving anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not too shabby for an "80-yearl old geezer"! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Yannis
 

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Does anyone know if the upgrade on the nav software is worthwhile? They want $200 to upgrade... Is there a cheaper way to upgrade? There are some roads in my metro area that are not on my '06 but not sure its worth paying for. <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Volvo Navigation System ? (hucknscore)

Just as a point of reference. Garmin charges $70 for a new map package and the same for a new POI package. Their techs suggest every two years is about right for an upgrade and my experience would indicate that is probably correct. At 3 years I start to notice missing data.
 

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Re: Volvo Navigation System ? (Sausca)

I know... Although I do like the pop up screen, thats why I would never have bough the in dash as an option. Just so happened that my used R had it already.
 
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