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This is a challenge to anyone on this board to show me how to improve the so called handling of my late model V70 T5.<P>A relative works for a large car magazine and is constantly at issue with Volvo promoting its T5's as performance cars. He claims the basic design is poor wrt handling & can't be improved no matter how much I spend on larger diameter anti-sways, lowering kits, springs, shocks, etc.<P>Please help me prove him wrong.<P>Not interested in how to get more horespower. T5's have more horsepower than they can handle given their poor driving manners. <P>
 

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Apparently, your relative hasn't driven in a suped up Volvo before. Let me tell from first hand experience, putting on thicker swaybars, strutbars, and lowering the car does absolutely wonders to the handling of the car. Slap on a nice set of tires and you will stick on the road like glue.
 

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mike_c70,<P>He not only drives "suped up" volvos but other cars as well and he does it for a living 24x7. <P>Assume he is as experienced as he(I) says and prove him wrong! To do so you must quantify your claim. <P>Can you describe what modifications can be made and what quantifiable effect they have had?<P>
 

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That really depends on how your relative define the term performance handling.<P>Kinda vague and not fair to just exclude it as a performance car without an actual comparison with other PERFORMANCE cars. What other cars he is comparing the V70 T5 to?
 

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Vague I agree, horsepower aside Lets compare the V70 T5 to a BMW 5 series wagon equiped with sport package.<P>Can we achieve the same or similiar handling characteristics via aftermarket mods? If so what are they. <P>Don't forget I own an 01 V70 T5. I also think the comparison is vague and unfair. I would like to prove him wrong. I can only do so by using facts & figures to debunk his hypothesis otherwise it holds.<BR>
 

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Hi. Changing your anti-sway ('roll') bars and your springs and shocks do <B>not</B> change your suspension's geometry (which is maybe what your relative means?), but they most certainly <B>do</B> change your cornering/handling abilities! These changes all affect your roll, pitch, and yaw characteristics. <P>Different tires will change both the overall stiffness (what you feel as you drive over bumps & concrete road joints, for example), as well as the cornering capabilities (lateral "grip"), among other things. Changes in your shocks and springs will change your jounce/rebound (example: hitting a pothole) and damping characteristics (vehicle response to a swift steering wheel input, like a lane change maneuver).<P>Lastly, while none of these change your straight line acceleration, you *might* notice that with different pitch characteristics, you might <B>perceive</B> your acceleration to be more or less based solely on how much the car pitches (rocks back) when you give it gas, even though you don't have more Hp. <P>Summary: When you change the rates (stiffnesses) of ANY of your suspension components, you are affecting your vehicle's dynamic characteristics (ride & handling). Right?!?! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>P.S. Sorry, I don't have any specific V70 suspension knowledge to suggest what changes you might want to make. I'm just saying that the theory/math behind it all says that if you change ANY of the components you mentioned, you will definitely be changing your car's dynamics. Somebody else here will no doubt have Volvo-specific recommendations for ya!<p>[This message has been edited by Lisa62 (edited 05-16-2002).]
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mjonessas:<BR><B>Vague I agree, horsepower aside Lets compare the V70 T5 to a BMW 5 series wagon equiped with sport package.<BR>Can we achieve the same or similiar handling characteristics via aftermarket mods? If so what are they. <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Unfortunately, there is no way for to compare an already heavy FWD to a RWD, especially we are comparing to one of critically acclaimed best handling car manufacturer out there.<P>Sure there are few lighter weight FWD can probably do very well on the track, but Volvo is just one of them. <P>Maybe the V70 T5 might have a chance against a heavy 540 Sportwagon, but I wouldn't bet on it. <BR>
 

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Setting up the camber and caster angles is a crucial factor in overall handling characteristics as well, especially when using super wide tires/wheels. There are a few reputable alignment shops around the U.S., and they ought to know how to dial in the suspension geometry for optimal handling. If they are truly professionals, they will put the car on a 4-wheel scale and take note of the weight on each wheel, possibly even factoring in the weight of the driver for ultra-anal-retentive tuning.<P>-he who stacks pork
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mjonessas:<BR><B>mike_c70,<BR>He not only drives "suped up" volvos but other cars as well and he does it for a living 24x7. <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I know, I was just playing. I would love to work for a car magazine and droll and at all those cars. Can you say Saleen S7? <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/eek.gif"> <P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mike_c70:<BR><B> Can you say Saleen S7? </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Saleen S7.<BR>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The_one_n_only:<BR><B> Saleen S7.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The correct answer is "Yes." <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"><P>
 
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