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Interior Pictures: <A HREF="http://www.swedespeed.com/news/publish/Volvo_News/article_1542.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.swedespeed.com/news....html</A> <p>Original Story With Exterior Shots: <A HREF="http://www.swedespeed.com/news/publish/Industry_News/article_1502.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.swedespeed.com/news....html</A> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/news/uploads/volvo/vizualtech_p1800_interior_header.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Vizualtech Renders Interior For Modern P1800 Coupe ([email protected])

Boy-o-boy has he ever captured the image and the true feeling. I like the steering wheel flat-bottom at 6:00 o'clock as it solves the problem of getting in and out of the car. In addition he even captures all the dials and lower dash lip, right down to the retro radio - except mind is an original 8track. Gotta love it.<br>Very well done. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I like the subtle use of modern or more exotic materials and elements as well. Carbon fiber on the center console and a gated shifter fit as his lengthened exterior ahead of the A-pillar gives the car a slightly Ferrari 250-ish charisma. Well done. Can't wait to see the real thing in person and hopefully at SEMA next year.
 

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volvo also looked in (and might still be) a modern P1800.<p>I think such a model would be well placed to be volvo's two seater roadster/convertible to fit into volvo's smaller model programme.<p>Peter Horbury's drive to develop concept cars and new niche models before the board asks for them (SCC, C30 and City Concept Car) means his ability to drive Volvo's model programme shouldn't be underestimated.<p>Steve Mattin also saw gaps in the lineup and had some new model ideas. In both cases, a business case must exist and a market to proceed but I think Peter's role back at volvo could indeed lead to some exciting model plans<p>Steve Odell also speaks of the revitalised model plans and an new exciting model lineup - which is good.<p>I know from 'the horses mouth' that the buzz generated by the experimental shape (ie small car) of the SCC led Peter Horbury to commission (without the board asking) designers to develop a proposal for a "small Volvo based on the SCC"<p>Once presented and complete, then the board was invited to assess and convinced to develop the C30....<p>Maybe therefore if enough press and enthusiast buzz is generated then Volvo will consider developing a modern interpretation of the P1800……and then a concept car to further gauge interest?<p>The 1800ES of the SCC was very popular.<p>Don’t underestimate the power and influence of press interest and enthusiast comments. <p>Volvo needs to be made aware (prior to a concept car) that there is interest for a modern P1800 / Volvo Roadster to take on the BMW Z2 (new model), Audi TT and VW Blue something.<p>Volvo monitors Swedespeed so lets generate lots of buzz here!!!! Nag your dealers too!<br>
 

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Name a maker of mass-produced cars that is currently NOT struggling for survival AND has or had a successful retro model in the last five years.<p>Retro is not the path to sales nor the path to profitability.<p>George Dill<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gdill2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Name a maker of mass-produced cars that is currently NOT struggling for survival AND has or had a successful retro model in the last five years.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Correlation <> Causation
 

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I think I'm missing something here!<p>Koenigsegg has signed a declaration of intent with regard to the purchase of SAAB with more detailed negotiations set to continue over the coming months probably into October. In the meantime has Volvo signed any deal with Koenigsegg the sports car maker for the design of the modern P1800 / Volvo Roadster?<p>What is the relationship if your at liberty to say?<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by stev vanveit at 6:05 AM 6-26-2009</i>
 

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...erm I think the Beetle is doing pretty well as is the Mini and Fiat 500? All retro.....<p>Volvo needs a two seater roadster model anyway to compete with the Audi TT. The presence of more exciting sporty models has moved Audi upmarket over the past 10 years. The lesser normal 1.6 (for example) cars have greater appeal as the sporty desirable Audis create a greater appeal to the brand.<p>Why not combine the need for a two seat roadster with volvo's already existing internal new P1800 project. <p>makes sense to me........
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Shimon</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...erm I think the Beetle is doing pretty well as is the Mini and Fiat 500? All retro...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>...and all struggling.<p>George Dill
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gdill2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Name a maker of mass-produced cars that is currently NOT struggling for survival AND has or had a successful retro model in the last five years.<p>Retro is not the path to sales nor the path to profitability.<p>George Dill<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>George Dill
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gdill2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Retro is not the path to sales nor the path to profitability.<p>George Dill<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>...right George, I RARELY see a Mustang on the road, in addition to the Beetle, Mini, and other "retro" designs previously mentioned. Don't get me wrong, I somewhat agree with your point. I think it's been beaten to death by designers after the Ford, BMW and VW teams made their marks in NA and at this point anything retro coming out is a yawner. Too late GM/Chrysler, it's been done...sure, their devoted Camaro and Challenger muscle-car lovers will think the "new" models are the whip, but there's nothing innovative anymore in doing a retro design. Also keep in mind that you and I (and most people here) aren't the "market at large": we generally don't fall for sales and marketing BS. But most of the rest of NA loves a pretty package and still think "retro" is innovative design. I do think there's value in design cues from older models, but just rounding some edges, updating lighting and copying what was done 40 years ago is lame. But if the sheep will buy it.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gdill2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Name a maker of mass-produced cars that is currently NOT struggling for survival AND has or had a successful retro model in the last five years.<p>George Dill<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ford.<br>Mustang.<p>Now I'm sure we'll discuss whether Ford is "struggling for survival". <br>No bailout $$$.<br>No bankruptcy filing.<br>Solid financial footing.<br>Are sales down? Sure. But whose aren't?
 

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Thought I'd jump in <I>WhoaTed</I>.... Until you have been in the cockpit of an 1800 (and I apologise assuming you have you not) retro is just another category in ones vocabulary.<p>Build it and they will come.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Shimon</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Why not combine the need for a two seat roadster with volvo's already existing internal new P1800 project. <p>makes sense to me........</TD></TR></TABLE><p><I>"The team says the car will be powered by the Yamaha-built V8 offered in Volvo's S80 and XC90 models. If this were our project, we'd go with a lighter T5 motor or perhaps even the new twin-turbo D5 diesel for something more fitting with the times albeit less classic. However, neither of those engines would be so easily tweaked to deliver 600 turbocharged horsepower, and we expect neither would sound as wonderful as a rumbling tuned 4.4-liter."</I><p>Volvo could easily offer 3 engines as an option as the engine bay has now been lengthened. One of the beautiful aspects of the 1800 design was the flexibility of having different power plants. AND the fantastic amount of leg room on the inside.
 
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