Interesting, and thanks for the update. I thought it was a very nice looking vehicle from the pics posted for the dealer site. But the small sunroof made it seem confined and a bit dark inside and would definitely need some window tinting. I think the Volvo would prove to be a much better experience to drive.Well, I went and test drove an E400 last week and while it exceeded the Volvo in many aspects, it completely failed in terms of UI for infotainment. Given that's one of the main interactions with the car, and I keep cars for a long time, it's off the list until Mercedes gets their touch screens in models and does a good job of it.
I find it interesting that this car was sent to auction if it was a “dealer car” per CarFax. Normally, dealers retail demos and service loaners. Wonder if something happened to the car that is not disclosed on the CarFax report.I should have mentioned I'm comparing a 2018 E400 demo that's on fire-sale, so there's no price premium compared to 16% off MSRP on a '19 R-design with a few thousand on the clock. I was about to pull the trigger on the V90 even though it doesn't have the full-leather package or the B&W audio, which is a bit of a bummer, but then I saw that E400, which I had previously written off due to the cost differential.
Even a well-used the E63 is out of my budget, but it can't just be performance bias that makes the E63 look so good. This one is comparable to the fire sale one, aside from rims. I feel like it dodges the boring hearse look I get from a dark blue or grey one: https://www.ebautobrokers.com/detai...line_4matic_wagon-used-wddzh6gb8ja379034.html
I did a short road-trip in an E-class wagon in Europe a few years ago and liked interior and feel of it, but unsurprisingly that one didn't have 300+ HP. Good to know it's worth checking the P* perf; I've only test driven the V90 without it, and the driving felt bland (compared to my S60R). I'll look around Seattle and see if there's a tuned S90 or V90 available for a drive. I'm worried if I drive the E400, it'll be hard to give up the performance...
Other notes: DrivePilot is missing on the E400 I'm looking at, and I'll have to check how I feel about the missing touch screen for the infotainment. But I haven't recently tried sensus or pilot assist, so I guess it's off to the dealerships...
YesI wanted to like the E400 wagon because my MB dealership is very very good and the engine was the same V6 as in a 2013 E-coupe I was leasing. Then I saw one. Granted, they were either black or grey. But to me the E400 wagon looked like a hearse...unless you get the AMG package and then you get run flats (and I'm assuming no spare of any kind). Frumpy and fat looking. Comparably equipped, the 2018's I looked at were $15K more than my Ocean Race. That being said, the engine/transmission performance of the MB is probably a level or two above the Volvo, based on the performance of the 4cylinder/9speed in the C300 I'm currently leasing, though I'm not sure it's worth the additional $$$.
Not a bad idea if you can find a 2 yr old CPO'd E63 for under $60K.I would spring for a used E63s before buying a new E400 or E450. It's an excellent wagon, but the pricing with options climbs very quickly. The turbo V6 us a gem, so if performance is the only measure, the Benz wins.
I agree with this, w/ Polestar and the 2.0 update. Dynamic/Polestar mode also seems to be more livable on the highway - not holding lower gears so long when cruising. Generally, the car feels much quicker in P* mode; manual shift is fun.P* moves it to a rear bias for one. Response is much better in city driving. Curves are well mapped. You don't feel that lag nearly as much without the P* (almost completely gone). Shift points are a bit more crisp as well. I drove an S90 without P* so that is my reference point. It's a much more engaging driving experience.