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Do we have a link or .pdf of the invoice/cost pricing for Overseas Delivery on the V70R? Not sure if this is the right forum, however when a dealer sponsers the OSD forum...somehow I doubt they'll be posting anything other than MSRP.<p>Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (ACD)

There is no "invoice" pricing for OSD. Pricing is set by Volvo Car Corporation (not Volvo Cars of North America), and retailers have no control over the pricing set by the OSD program.<p>The best way to get a "deal" (most people want cars . . . but some people want "deals," so I'll play along), is to purchase some in-stock vehicle through OSD. You typically get the benefits of the OSD program, PLUS some packages will be free.
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (R Salesman)

yep; like the man said instock cars for osd at the end of the model year like now have GREAT packages.<p>we just came back from an osd of a v70 2.5t. i could have gotten an R for about 2k$ more. it was black, that would not do, and it was an s60r, and that would not do.<p>we ordered ours slightly customized and it was still a great deal.<p>on the s60r premium package, free, other stuff i do not remember, free. and for some the metalic paint was free. they had a wagon r for like 35k and they would have customized it for the booster seats etc for normal price. very fair. check out the offers from them and see what is available.<p>one could us the "plans" x plan etc. to get a deal, but.............osd is better
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (hastee)

Along the lines of hastee's comments:<p>It's typically easiest to get OSD pricing from your local retailer, <i>assuming</i> they're knowledgable and competent with regard to the OSD program. If that's not the case, feel free to email one of the guys on here who are "in the know" (me, Yannis, Bob, etc.), and we can get some pricing to you.<p>Currently there are about 5 V70 R's that are in OSD's in-stock program, and all currently have a free premium package in addition to the typical OSD pricing. GREAT deal, especially for a 07.<p>Anyways, we're all on here to help, so let us know what you need help with. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (R Salesman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Salesman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is no "invoice" pricing for OSD. Pricing is set by Volvo Car Corporation (not Volvo Cars of North America), and retailers have no control over the pricing set by the OSD program.<p>The best way to get a "deal" (most people want cars . . . but some people want "deals," so I'll play along), is to purchase some in-stock vehicle through OSD. You typically get the benefits of the OSD program, PLUS some packages will be free.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Woah there...no need for the sarcasm. Trying to decide between an A4 Avant S-Line, BMW 3 wagon and maybe a V70R wagon if the pricing is in the same ballpark...which it seems to be when you do the OSD. Now, on the BMW forums, there is a document showing the "cost" of all of the models when bought through European Delivery. That way, you can build the car you want to determine the savings. I hardly think the request warrants sarcasm.<p>I guess I don't understand how there can't be a "cost" price for an OSD car...where'd the profit margin go? I'm not saying I don't want give the dealer a chunk of change for his trouble of ordering me a car through OSD, but I won't negotiate down from MSRP either. So either the .pdf that Yannis linked us to shows OSD MSRP numbers or it shows OSD "Cost" numbers. It doesn't say which.<p>Lastly, I'm not quite sure what you mean by an "in-stock" vehicle. Where is the car "in-stock" if it hasn't already made it to the dealer. Does Volvo keep a lot full for us in Sweden? I figured that an OSD car is always ordered. Enlighten me!
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (hastee)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hastee</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check out the offers from them and see what is available.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Who's "them"...Stillman?
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (R Salesman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Salesman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Along the lines of hastee's comments:<p>It's typically easiest to get OSD pricing from your local retailer, <i>assuming</i> they're knowledgable and competent with regard to the OSD program. If that's not the case, feel free to email one of the guys on here who are "in the know" (me, Yannis, Bob, etc.), and we can get some pricing to you.<p>Currently there are about 5 V70 R's that are in OSD's in-stock program, and all currently have a free premium package in addition to the typical OSD pricing. GREAT deal, especially for a 07.<p>Anyways, we're all on here to help, so let us know what you need help with. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That...I appreciate. Will you email me the specs on the 5 Rs that you have "in-stock"? Thanks.
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (ACD)

ACD....<p>An "in-stock" unit means that certain cars that will be coming off the assembly line at various times have been "allocated for OSD". This is an attempt by Volvo to try and meet the demand by some customers to be able to pick up a vehicle in a shorter time frame than having to wait for a "special or custom" order to be processed.<br>By knowing that units "in the pipeline "...( which is how we refer to them)..are coming, it enables more US customers to be able to take advantage of the program. In addition, Volvo NA tries to offer an additional incentive on those "in stock" units to make it THAT MUCH MORE attractive.<p>In comparing the BMW (and other ) OSD programs to Volvos....the major difference (in addition to the free tarvel offer) is that most of the other European automakers leave it up to the delaer to "negotiate" the final price of an OSD unit....and NONE to my knowledge, offer any additional incentives or any "in stock" units for quick delivery.<br> Volvo "discounts" the OSD models (except for the new C70) as a matter of the straight forward pricing that most people in the premium brand segment expect as part of a professional, no gimmick, no price haggling, Overseas Delivery.<br>Let us know how we can help you in accomplishing that goal.
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (ACD)

them, is any volvo dealer. preferably one who understands the osd program.<p>my understanding is that the price on osd cars is set, non negotiable.
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (universityvolvoOSD)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>universityvolvoOSD</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ACD....<p>An "in-stock" unit means that certain cars that will be coming off the assembly line at various times have been "allocated for OSD". This is an attempt by Volvo to try and meet the demand by some customers to be able to pick up a vehicle in a shorter time frame than having to wait for a "special or custom" order to be processed.<br>By knowing that units "in the pipeline "...( which is how we refer to them)..are coming, it enables more US customers to be able to take advantage of the program. In addition, Volvo NA tries to offer an additional incentive on those "in stock" units to make it THAT MUCH MORE attractive.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>That is very smart. As I say...please email me the "in-stock" V70Rs and their options/prices. I'd like to show that to my Dad who is leaning towards the Audi.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>universityvolvoOSD</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>In comparing the BMW (and other ) OSD programs to Volvos....the major difference (in addition to the free tarvel offer) is that most of the other European automakers leave it up to the delaer to "negotiate" the final price of an OSD unit....and NONE to my knowledge, offer any additional incentives or any "in stock" units for quick delivery.<br> Volvo "discounts" the OSD models (except for the new C70) as a matter of the straight forward pricing that most people in the premium brand segment expect as part of a professional, no gimmick, no price haggling, Overseas Delivery.<br>Let us know how we can help you in accomplishing that goal.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I equate no gimmick, no price haggling to unprofessional hood winking that Saturn tried to pull when it came out. Hardly premium in any way. A car costs a certain amount to the dealer after which the dealer and I will come to decision about how much profit they're willing to take in order to make the sale. I'm surprised there is any incentive for the dealer to take part in OSD (other than making profit off of maintaining the car) if Volvo sets the price you pay. To me, it sounds like the purchaser is dealing directly with Volvo. The other manufacturers are giving the dealer a chance to make some profit on the sale. But you're right...Volvo's incentives and discounts are certainly appreciated.
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (ACD)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ACD</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I guess I don't understand how there can't be a "cost" price for an OSD car...where'd the profit margin go? I'm not saying I don't want give the dealer a chunk of change for his trouble of ordering me a car through OSD, but I won't negotiate down from MSRP either. So either the .pdf that Yannis linked us to shows OSD MSRP numbers or it shows OSD "Cost" numbers. It doesn't say which.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sure there is an "invoice" for an OSD car. It is not publicized because it depends on the particular car. OSD cars are, usually, unique and customized.<p>At any rate, you will be hard-pressed to not only find a Volvo retailer who would be willing to negotiate the OSD "MSRP" (in quotes, because the car is alread 8% off regular MSRP plus all the other OSD incentives one gets) but to also find someone competent enough who will give you great service and ensure a hassle free order process.<p>Last, the MAIN reason that the overwhelming Volvo retailers do not bother to get a clue about this great program is that an OSD order is not a great deal (for the retailer). Volvo will not pay any retailer support (that can amount to a few thousand dollars per car) as they do on regular deliveries. No CSI bonuses, nothing.<p>Therefore, many retailer principals frown when it comes to efforts in increasing OSD business. But, that is an internal issue and nothing that you need to worry. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Yannis
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (ACD)

ACD,<p>I didn't realize that the reason for requesting "invoice" pricing was because you were comparing Volvo's OSD program to another manufacturer's. That's my fault, and I apologize.<p>As previously mentioned, Volvo's OSD programs sets the pricing. Volvo Car Corporation gives the US retailer a flat fee to handle the order process for the customer. It's not much, but that's why retailers will do it.<p>Check your email for available in-stock units and pricing info.<p><br>
 

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Regarding the subject of "why Volvo dealers do or don't get on board with the OSD program"?<br>If you look at the vast majority of the top 20-25 OSD Volvo dealers nationally......you will find that they are "exclusive" Volvo stores...meaning that they sell no other brand BUT Volvo....therefore a big % of their business is repeat and referral....and maximizing ALL the programs Volvo offers.....regardless of the forms of dealer cash and incentives that Yannis mentioned.<br>As a "selfish" dealer...I would prefer a customer to buy from my inventory! That way I get all the extra incentives Volvo offers the dealership...but as an OSD mgr., sometimes that would "shortchange" a customer who might be interested in more than just a car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> ....the roundtrip FREE airfare for 2 , the free hotel for a night, and the fun of driving through Sweden and beyond! THAT is the real incentive.....not just the pricing!....and I think anyone who has done aan OSD would agree with that <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (universityvolvoOSD)

Well said by Bob and Yannis.<p>"Regarding the subject of "why Volvo dealers do or don't get on board with the OSD program"?<p>If you look at the vast majority of the top 20-25 OSD Volvo dealers nationally......you will find that they are "exclusive" Volvo stores...meaning that they sell no other brand BUT Volvo....therefore a big % of their business is repeat and referral....and maximizing ALL the programs Volvo offers.....regardless of the forms of dealer cash and incentives that Yannis mentioned"<p>It is much more than the price, or even the car... <p>It's as we say,<p>"A Journey for Life"<p><br>William
 

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Okay so I should expect a take-it or leave-it approach which is fine as it really is a great car for a great deal. No complaints there, just wanted an explanation of how the system works.<p>I figured it would be similar to BMW's system, but this seems like a more attractive approach.
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (GrecianVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GrecianVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At any rate, you will be hard-pressed to not only find a Volvo retailer who would be willing to negotiate the OSD "MSRP" (in quotes, because the car is alread 8% off regular MSRP plus all the other OSD incentives one gets) but to also find someone competent enough who will give you great service and ensure a hassle free order process.<p>Yannis</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There's a reason you get a big discount...not sure exactly what but it's not just Volvo trying to get tourists to Sweden.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ACD</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay so I should expect a take-it or leave-it approach </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Personally (and even though I do not really know William and Bob well I am positive they agree with me), I would not put it as "take it or leave it". That would be cocky, arrogant...whatever you want to call it. Definitely not customer-service oriented.<p>A GREAT car buying experience is (90% of the time) based on TRUST, GOOD WILL and FLEXIBILITY. All these contribute to the word that seals EVERY DEAL: <b><i>VALUE</i></b>. If and when a buyer sees value in his car buying experience, then his/her search is over. <p>OSD program has all that. It is a program LOADED with value. You get a nice discount and the chance of taking a great trip at little personal expense. If one is considering the OSD program just to get a better price, then they should buy a local car.<p>Best of luck to your father and I hope he ends up with a Volvo! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Speaking of that, do you still have yours?<p>Yannis
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (GrecianVolvo)

My 850 served me admirably for two years...then I sold it to a friend who used it for a year and now someone else has it. Can't say I miss it...it was more for art school utility than a passionate fling like the Porsche. I'm much more nostalgic for my 240 wagon. I really want another one of those or a 122 or an early 145. Some day.<p>But my parents grew fond of my Volvos and I think it would be a great replacement for the Passat as the new one may as well wear a Buick badge.<p>I think there's a LOT of value in a $40K V70R...can't say the same for a 325xi or a 4 cylinder Audi. But that's what you gotta pay to play these days!
 

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Not an V70R but OSD anyway as a comparison.<p>2005 V50T5 price on lot $32,555.00 + tax/tag then how much you could deal off the price?<p>Through OSD $26,863.00 , $5,692 savings because the car was a pre-built and waiting for a buyer we got the $2200 normal OSD discount plus a pkg discount of $1500, no delivery fee $670 and some other discounts.<p>The car wasn't exactly the color we wanted or interior but we have had many great coments from others and it didn't take long to grow on us.<p>Also add the 2 airline tickets, about $1800 ea on avg, the one night stay $250, we got 2 due to a scheduling problem. the 3 free transfers(limo rides), factory tour, lunch 15days of insureance (we added 30 days for $40), the savings on a rental car about $400 a week for us with an R probably $600.<p>So we saved about $12k on a $32k car with a trip. 4wks in Europe and 3200mi, just paying for gas, food and lodging. Also did 4 laps of the Nurburgring! Priceless <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>I own an Audi A4/S4 Avant love the V8 power, it is actually smaller than the V50, so much smaller than a V70R, price is much more and lots of minor and in some cases major mechanical issues have been posted, the BMW3 wagon is even smaller than the Audi, not by much and probably more money depending on equipment. I looked at all as well, will be looking at the V70R for OSD next spring/summer.
 

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Re: V70 R OSD invoice (V50T5OSD)

With customers like V50T5OSD......who needs to advertise? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> ......Thanks my friend! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>This is just one example of why a "dedicated" Volvo dealer (and there are many more) gets involved with OSD. Once the customer returns, they are a great source of new business! <br>It's not about making a profit......it's about building relationships.....all part of the "Volvo For Life" philosophy.<br>Yannis/William/Melissa ALL have similar stories from their customers! It is a great value and a memorable experience! <br>Maybe a Nurgurgring Driving School would be worth looking into <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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