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I'm looking at a used 04 S60R. Flash green, auto, 29k miles, $24k. Looks to be in fab shape, except it has four el-cheapo replacement tires on it (matched, but "American GT Turbo" brand... if you can call something that nobody has ever heard of a brand!).<p>On CarFax report the car (listed as a private lease) had at least some (or possibly all?) tires replaced at 4,439 miles and then again at 5,500 miles by a "service contract corp" in Grosse Pointe, MI. Must be some kind of lease warranty claim or ?? to be entered in the report, I'm guessing... I can't imagine if you hit a curb and blow a tire that makes it into CarFax. Oddly there are no warranty stamps in the book-- anyone know if my local Volvo dealer can/will look up service history for a car I don't own?<p>I have no problem putting new tires on the car if I buy it, but at $400-$800 for four (depending on what I decide on) I am worried whether the R cars either have a known tire wear issue (like the new Nissan Z cars that were all chewing up tires) or if this anything I should be concerned about.<p>Thanks-- a newbie prospective R owner
 

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Re: Used 04- tire wear concerns... opinions?? (dkois)

Oh, and btw I obviously will be checking for all the usual stuff- paint, bodywork, etc. Just obsessing about this tire thing.
 

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If your local dealer has any type of customer service, they shouldn't have a problem looking up possible history of the vehicles services. I've done this on one occasion with my Dodge and they didn't hesitate at all.<p>As far as the tire wear issue, Im not exactly sure what you mean. Although I've never heard of the Z's tearing through tires unless of course the owners are constantly doing burnouts....or the rubber they are using is extremely soft. The only thing you'll find people complaining about is the stock Rosso tires that come on the R. They have a pretty short life. <p>If you are at all worried I would talk to the dealer in the area and see if they would give the car a once over. Even if you have to pay a little bit of cash (maybe you can convince the guy to pay for it) its worth the peace of mind in the end.<p>Im always more worried about engine/suspension issues when buying a new car cause when those go it wont be $500 to fix...it'll be new car time.
 

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Re: Used 04- tire wear concerns... opinions?? (dkois)

No, I don't think there is an unusual wear problem on the R. It all depends on the tire you choose. Most of us choose sportier tires with excellent grip and, unfortunately, poor treadwear ratings. The stock Pirellis that came on the car could easily have been replaced early due to either poor winter performance or they could have worn down to the indicators (most last about 10K, although mine made it to 20K).<p>I would up your tire budget to $800-1200, depending on wheel size, for a good set of tires that are well matched to the car. For high-performance, all-season tires I recommend either Pirelli Nero M+S or Toyo Proxes on the lower end of the price scale and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S on the higher end. If you want summer tires, there are plenty to choose from and I am sure someone else will be happy to recommend one.<p>Best of luck on the purchase decision.
 

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Re: Used 04- tire wear concerns... opinions?? (dkois)

No abnormal tire wear isues on a<B> non</B> lowered R.<br>It's just that ALL high performance dry tires have limited tread life
 

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Re: Used 04- tire wear concerns... opinions?? (dkois)

It's possible that the owner did not like ride of the Pirelli tires, Michigan has some pretty big bumps due to their winters and the tires that most of us like transmit every crack and bump, he may have simply wanted a tire to smooth out the ride.<p>He could have also been a track junkie and just used em up!<p>Vinny
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tekk</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as the tire wear issue, Im not exactly sure what you mean. Although I've never heard of the Z's tearing through tires unless of course the owners are constantly doing burnouts....or the rubber they are using is extremely soft.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think the original poster was talking about this.<p><A HREF="http://www.nissantireproblems.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.nissantireproblems.com</A>/<p>Many 350Z drivers were shredding tires like mad when the model first came out due to camber issues resulting from the (poor) original suspension design.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tekk</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>As far as the tire wear issue, Im not exactly sure what you mean. Although I've never heard of the Z's tearing through tires unless of course the owners are constantly doing burnouts....or the rubber they are using is extremely soft.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>When the 350Z's came out, there WAS an issue with cars going through tires in 5,000 to 7,000 due to the alignment. Don't remember if it was factory alignment settings or something in the suspension that prevented proper alignment, but it was a chronic issue. Nissan even replaced some tires on the first go-round of cars. I remember asking about it when I bought my Pathfinder. <p>As Jim said, non-lowered R's have no issues with abnormal wear, although they are sensitive to alignment and require frequent rotation. <p>Edit: Apparently Pelle types faster than I! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Used 04- tire wear concerns... opinions?? (dkois)

Thanks all. I hadn't thought about the notion that the tires might have came off the first time it snowed... that actually makes a lot of sense, they get a lot of snow up there, and since the car was delivered in June 4-5k miles sounds right to have hit winter. <p>Glad to hear there isn't a chronic issue with R tirewear... and sorry about the oblique reference to the Z tirewear problems, thought that was fairly common knowledge.<p>I think I may go with high peformance all-season, rather than summer, as we do get snow around here and I'm not into switching wheels twice a year on a daily driver. I have some Toyo Proxes on our Mini Cooper S, and have even autocrossed on them occasionally (when too lazy or raining too hard to deal with slicks!), and they've done pretty well. <p>If the deal works out, I'll be back for advice on mod's... Thanks again.<p>Dennis <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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