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Does anyone have any advice on changing the newer square upper mount to the old round mount?<br>Is this an easy DIY job?<br>I see that to get to all the screws I would need to take off the top of the engine and to get that off I would need to remove the turbo piping.<p>Is this true? Does anyone have any instructions on this?
 

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Re: Upper Engine Mount Housing installation (andersh67)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>andersh67</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does anyone have any advice on changing the newer square upper mount to the old round mount?<br>Is this an easy DIY job?<br>I see that to get to all the screws I would need to take off the top of the engine and to get that off I would need to remove the turbo piping.<p>Is this true? Does anyone have any instructions on this?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What!? no!<p>Its a easy DIY for sure.<p>Remove the Big black bar, screws on each end, as well as unbolting the 1 long bolt that goes through the bushing.<p>You'll see a few bolts that hold that mount onto the Valve cover. I belive they are 10mm , 3 or 4 of em. <p>Install new round mount, re-install black bar.
 

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ok im in the garage now...<p>Take off the 2 bolts holding your big black bar onto the strut tower. 2 on each side. This is easier than removing the ones that hold the black bar onto the soft side bushings. Remove long horizontal bolt that is through the actual engine mount bushing.<p>There are 4- 14mm bolts holding down that mount to the valve cover.<p>Remove and reinstall in reverse order.<br>
 

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Great! Thanks for your passion for garage mechanics on a late Friday evening. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I'll probably order the parts tomorrow and should have this installed by next weekend. <p>Another question on the same topic. I've read that if you have an automatic (GT in my case), this mount might create annoying vibrations due to the tighter mount and stiffer material in the IPD bushing. However, one thread was referring to the Evolve bushings - Blue (stiffer) and Black (softer) - to eliminate these vibrations. Do both of these Evolve bushings create less vibration than the IPD one?<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by andersh67 at 1:20 AM 5-16-2009</i>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>andersh67</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Great! Thanks for your passion for garage mechanics on a late Friday evening. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I'll probably order the parts tomorrow and should have this installed by next weekend. <p>Another question on the same topic. I've read that if you have an automatic (GT in my case), this mount might create annoying vibrations due the tighter mount and stiffer material in the IPD bushing. However, one thread was referring to the Evolve bushings - Blue (stiffer) and Black (softer) - to eliminate these vibrations. Do both of these Evolve bushings create less vibration than the IPD one?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm doing my compression test. Also how fast I can compress a few beers.<p>I'm using the Blue Evolve one, and it does creat some in cabin vibration during idle Not much, not enough to massage you.<p>But you do feel it in the steeringwheel a bit.<p>I'm using the Evolve blue up top, as well as a powerflex for the smaller bushing.<p>My Transmission mount for my Manual trans are polyurethane also. So I probably have quite a bit more vibration than most R's.<p>People have had good results with the IPD one however, it seems there are more complaints with the Hard Evolve one than any of the choices.
 

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From my personal experience in terms of hardness:<br>Evolve Black < IPD < Evolve Blue <br>I'd go with the Evolve black if I were you but even still, with the GT it might still cause a lot of unwanted vibration.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From my personal experience in terms of hardness:<br>Evolve Black < IPD < Evolve Blue <br>I'd go with the Evolve black if I were you but even still, with the GT it might still cause a lot of unwanted vibration.</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Evolve black for me, switched out from IPD due to excessive vibration
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jstro</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Evolve black for me, switched out from IPD due to excessive vibration</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From my personal experience in terms of hardness:<br>Evolve Black < IPD < Evolve Blue <br>I'd go with the Evolve black if I were you but even still, with the GT it might still cause a lot of unwanted vibration.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Pansies! <p>Hahahha jk,. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I have both the IPD blue big mount and the poly stiffeners that go on each end of the black upper mount bar where it connects to the shock towers. I only experienced increased vibration through the shifter. None in the wheel, seat or pedals, idle or otherwise. This is an 04 MT. I don't rest my hand on the shifter anyway.
 

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I just installed the IPD upper engine mount and there is noticeable increase in vibration but its been 3 weeks and I hardly notice it now.
 

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Re: Upper Engine Mount Housing installation (andersh67)

If you are changing the entire mount (square to round) and not just the bushing, you will need to remove the top cover, to access one of the bolts to the head.<p>No big job, but you do remove the turbo pipe. Great time to change the plugs too if needed.
 

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Re: Upper Engine Mount Housing installation (rogersampson)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rogersampson</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are changing the entire mount (square to round) and not just the bushing, you will need to remove the top cover, to access one of the bolts to the head.<br>No big job, but you do remove the turbo pipe. Great time to change the plugs too if needed.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>OK, thanks - yes, I am changing the entire mount since I have the original 2006 square mount. <br>That's what I was worried about. So I assume the turbo pipe is only attached with 2-3 screws, right? Anything in particular to think about when I re-attach the top and the pipe?
 

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Re: Upper Engine Mount Housing installation (andersh67)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>andersh67</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>OK, thanks - yes, I am changing the entire mount since I have the original 2006 square mount. <br>That's what I was worried about. So I assume the turbo pipe is only attached with 2-3 screws, right? Anything in particular to think about when I re-attach the top and the pipe?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Mine is a 04' and uses a different clamp to the turbo itself. But its pretty easy, one screw for that. <p>2 scres hold that plastic pipe to the engine itself.<p>Then one more that clamps it to the pipping close to the radiator.<p>Just pop your hood, stare at the pipe end to end for 30 seconds and you'll understand.
 

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Re: Upper Engine Mount Housing installation (andersh67)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>andersh67</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br> So I assume the turbo pipe is only attached with 2-3 screws, right? Anything in particular to think about when I re-attach the top and the pipe?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>4 screws actually. Two that hold the OTE pipe to the engine, and one on either end of the OTE pipe (hose clamps). Need Torx, Allen and Flat blade heads IIRC.
 

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Re: Upper Engine Mount Housing installation (icebiker)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>icebiker</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>4 screws actually. Two that hold the OTE pipe to the engine, and one on either end of the OTE pipe (hose clamps). Need Torx, Allen and Flat blade heads IIRC.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>His is a newer one with the plastic over the engine (OTE) pipe. It connects a little differently to the turbo. Not sure what screw it uses.
 
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