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unresponsive dealer re: piston ring repair job

1.5K views 6 replies 4 participants last post by  Albxc60  
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I have a 2015.5 XC60 with about 88k miles on it. It has excessive oil consumption for over 2 years due to the infamous piston ring issue. It used a qt about every 500 miles. Did the oil consumption test and my local dealer told me Volvo had authorized goodwill repair on it. It was a matter of scheduling when I could bring the car in. It had a 6 month wait. I took the car on a road trip in mid October (not very far, 4 hours away) and it broke down outside Buffalo, NY. Out of the blue, check engine light came up and displayed Engine power reduce message. Luckily Northtown Volvo was only few miles away. I managed to drive to it and had them to check on it. It turned out the valves did not close tight. Long story short, the goodwill repair was done there.

6 weeks had passed without hearing anything from the dealer, I called and was told the cylinder head needed to be machined. It was sent to a machine shop. Once it is returned, it would only take a couple of days to put it back. The head would be returned in late December. Called them again in December and found out the valves needed to be replaced. Another 2 weeks passed, still do not hear from them. All these time, the dealer is unresponsive. I had to make numerous call to reach out to them and if I am lucky, I could talk to one of the service advisors. Their service dept supervisor handles my repair, and he never returns my call even at one time I was old by his associate he "promised" to call me. Any calls to him ended up with voice mail. As of now, the dealer has not called me a single time!

The dealer is 4 hours away which I cannot go down there to talk to them, and I don't have a car since the day I took it in. I am very frustrated!

Any advise is appreciated.

By the way, is it possible excessive oil consumption will cause such a major issue? My car was driving fine for all those time. No noise or any vibration or no loss of power. The computer decided to shut it down and display the engine power reduced message. At that time, the car could barely move. If that is common, Volvo owners should be aware of such problem. Breaking down without any prior sign of warning is no fun.
 
#2 ·
Excessive oil consumption can cause the exhaust valve edge to overheat get red hot, burn off the edge of the valve causing a no compression misfire. This could have happened to your car.
Normally Volvo will not pay for burnt valve repair. I have seen where the customer pays for the valve repair as needed. Start over with an oil consumption test and go from there. I do not blame you for being frustrated when the dealer does not keep you informed about what is going on. Call and ask for the manager. If you do not get any response, call Volvo. Be nice, the 800 operator is just a messenger. It will get forwarded to the dealership and possibly the Volvo rep. All of this being said, it is a good thing that the valve burnt now, if that is what happened. There is a good chance that the valve was worn enough that it could have burned a chunk off after you had the piston rings replace. Also ask if there are any scratch marks on the cylinder wall. If yes, you get a new engine when the piston rings are replaced under the extended warranty process.



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#4 ·
thanks for all the responses. The dealer finally called me and explained the whole situation. When the cylinder head was machined, the mechanic noticed a few exhaust valve guides were not sitting right. There are gaps there. the dealer could not find the replacment parts. Volvo stopped making those parts few years ago saying "those parts do not fail". If not replaced, there will be a leak there. the only option is replacing the entire head and Volvo will not pay for it. Now a few dollar item become $3200! I love the car but I am not sure it will last. It is not even 8 years old! Should I go for after market parts (not sure if it is available)?
 
#5 ·
You are stuck in the middle. Volvo approved tear down but before that could happen the engine failed and now the car is at a different Volvo dealer for repair. The head has to be fixed/replaced. What is the dealer doing about the piston/ring replacement. Also ask the dealer if there are any score marks on the cylinder wall. See if they will send you pictures. If score marks, you get a new engine. I would think that this needs to be addressed before you buy a new head. Attached is the PDF about piston/ring replacement.


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#6 ·
Yep, oil consumption causes all that. My guess is each time they found another problem they had to reach out to Volvo to get that leg approved for good will. Where they fell short, was communication to you. For some reason, some service advisors completely fail to understand the importance of that. To their (incorrect) mindset, all they need to do is tell you when it's done. The important part of the service advisors job is communication, so it does get a bit baffling when someone is horrible at it, and yeah, I've seen it all too often over the years. Where I'm out now is pretty strong, and was a big part of what I was looking for in reviews before coming here. I can sell a car, but if you have a bad experience in service, you won't buy a second one from me. And remember, if we were paying for the worlds best communicators as service advisors the labor rate would probably double, so it's not that dealers don't realize it's important, it's that often times in any labor market, you pay for average and sometimes you get people better than they have a right to be, and sometimes you get someone less.

Now doing what you're doing is working too... calling and asking. Don't feel bad about calling to check up on your car.
 
#7 ·
Dfrantz, I completely agree with you. A friend of mine had a XC40. He loved the car but the service department was horrible. He sold the car because he was so fed up by that dealership.

I hope service managers know post-sale support is as important as selling the vehicle. Buying cars are one time process but maintaining them is a long term commitment. If customers are not happy, we won't buy it again.

Thanks for everyone who responded to this thread. Now the service manager is very responsive. We are even on Text communication now. That helps a lot. I hope other owners who have piston ring issue have better experience with their dealership.