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Interesting thing happened on my way home tonight <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> - driving on the hwy, I hear a strange noise - like something was dragging. Just happened to be passing a rest area so I start to pull in. I hear something hard let go, and see a pulley bouncing along in my rear view mirror. The engine cuts out before I even get off the ramp.<p>The pulley wheel (looked like a tensioner)- which I went back and grabbed, had melted its way thru the crankshaft cover - right where the cooling fan is...my guess is that 1st sound (like something dragging) was the crankshaft belt flapping in the breeze. <p>This is a '95 960 w/ 110,000 miles. The crankshaft belt was replaced at 70,000m. <p>How bad is it???<p>
 

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That's what I was afraid of...& my mechanic just confirmned <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Good recall, George. No I sold my V70R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> & hung onto my 855T (just a case of whichever sold 1st). I got rear ended in it about 2 yrs ago (totalled & I was fine), and picked up this 960 from my father-in-law w/ just shy of 90k on it (& from GA no less).<p>It's been a good car (not quite as much fun to drive <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> ), and I just finished a round of work on it (brakes, tires, a/c, & cooling fan unit). <p>I'm bummed - my mechanic doesn't even want to give a price for a fix.<p>I already had started looking on craigslist this am - thinking maybe a '01/'02 V70 T5 - only problem being a new top 1/2 or a replacement car was not in the budget. <p>I'm playing w/ the idea of doing the job myself...<p>I hate it when your car detonates right when you think you've got it pretty well sorted out for a stretch
 

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Assuming you have the skills, time, place, money and inexpensive but correct parts source the total ticket for getting back on the road with the reliable and serviceable 960 will be MORE THAN sourcing a used Volvo already in needs-nothing ready-to-drive condition.<p>Share your ZIP, total cash budget available and longest distance to buy and we will go a-shopping.<p>George Dill<p>
 

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<A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeropost?cmd=tshow&id=121137" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...21137</A><p>George Dill
 

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George - you're the voice of reason - thanks. My last hold out is to look around locally for a 960 in a parts yard where I might be able to get the top 1/2 of the engine.<p>I've got the space, most of the skills & tools (not the volvo specific ones), money - maybe, and time can be an issue, but I know a guy who can help. <p>I think I might still be in denial thinking I can pirate the parts off an existing engine, and getting her running again. It's just chaffing me that I spent @ $1,600 in the past 6 weeks on the brakes, tires, a/c, and cooling fan ($500) getting her good to go. <p>I am up in MA about an hour south of Boston - 02739<p>Budget - not really, but let's say $2-$5k. <p>Distance - I shot JRL an email to see what he had, and not opposed to driving 8 or so hrs to bring home the right one. The V70R I got was from TX, but shipping isn't in the budget on this one. I will be in Salt Lake City end of July, and would also consider driving home in the right car - which came to mind when I saw that S70 T5 listed here.<p>Thing is I really need a wagon, and not sure I can bring myself to driving the non-T 850/V70 engine. Thinking of staying away from awd for simplicity and avoiding potential cost. <p>I saw an '01 V70 T5 auto w/ 128k listed locally for $4,950 in great shape which got me thinking... but then I started to think I would rather spend up to $2k on my car getting it back on the road... <p>I think I am moving from the denial phase into anger <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> isn't that how the grieving process works??? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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Re: uh oh - crankshaft belt (kitebuz)

If the damage to the engine were confined to the head and its internals then repair may be considered an option.<p>Sourcing a salvage head in useable condition is iffy and may require more work than the existing head.<p>Without tearing down the entire engine you will never know the extent of damage and may find yourself installing a "new" head on an imperfect block with "bad" internals.<p>Me?<p>Take the $$ hit on recent improvements to the car and shop for another Volvo RWD wagon in perfect one-owner condition.<p>Don't rule out the older RWD models - a 940 turbo wagon is a fine ride indeed.<p>George Dill<p>
 

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mmm - just saw a '95 960 listed locally w/ 73,000 miles and asking $2,500. At least I would know where I can get parts...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kitebuz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I go w/ a replacement car - any ideas on what I should do with my 960??</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sell it for salvage or donate it for a tax break - get it out of your hair before you put more money into it.<p>George Dill
 

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What do you think I could get from salvage for it? <p>I have to decide what to do w/ it as it is sitting at the mechanics right now. I guess I will have AAA drop it at my house.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kitebuz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess I will have AAA drop it at my house.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Consider having AAA drop it at the salvage yard.<p>George Dill
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kitebuz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Local slavage guy just offered me $150 for it & he picks it up...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Good call!<p>Be sure to get a signature on a bill-of-sale and notify your Motor Vehicle Registrar.<p>Let's go shopping:<p>Volvo? Yes.<p>Wagon? Yes.<p>RWD?<p>Turbo?<p>AT?<p>3rd seat?<p>4, 5, or 6 cylinders?<p>Budget?<p>Distance to travel for pick up?<p>Buy fom a dealer/broker?<p>George Dill<p>
 

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<br>Thanks, George!<p>I wish I was more in the shopping mode... I am swinging back to getting her fixed, realizing I can get by w/out my car until the 1st week of Aug. Should be enough time for a local guy to get her running again for $1,500-$2,000. <p>It's looking like my most affordable solution - especially since I had just finished working on the car to keep her running for another couple years. Will keep you posted - was leaning towards a '99/'00 V70 fwd (pref. T5 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">, but would have settled for standard) before I swung back to the repair...<p>
 

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With the head off look at the tops of the pistons for damage. If any pull the pan and check the crank and rods.<p>George Dill
 

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Well after talking to a local volvo guru, I decided George was right - not worth the expense of opening it all up, only to potentially find piston damage in addition to the valve damage. Sadly, she's going to the scrapper.<p>I also decided the most prudent thing to do right now is lease a new car to keep monthly's as low as possible, and avoid any unforeseen repair bills. I'm on the road a fair bit with work.<p>I'm picking up a 6sp manual Mazda 3 hatchback tonight. It will be the 1st time in over a dozen years I will be w/ out a Volvo (or two) which is kinda sad. At least the new car is not a total tin can. <p>Maybe in 3 years I will get into a nice newer V70R...<p>Thanks for all the advice.
 
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