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so who's done it? which one are you running? what would you reccomend? tell me everything! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (Cicada)

R_Rated has a GT30 and Boosted will have a GT35. Both monster hair dryers. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>R_Rated went with the GT30 because IPD had a tune for it. Boosted is having all of his stuff done custom by <A HREF="http://www.batlground.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.batlground.com</A>. Batlground does some good work and has created some monster drifters so I am anxiously awaiting to see what his car does on the 19th. <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (Cicada)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cicada</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so who's done it? which one are you running? what would you reccomend? tell me everything! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Don't get me wrong with this next statement... working with IPD was the best experience possible and there were the best as far as customer servive and everything you would expect from a vendor and more.<p>Having said that; If I had a local tuner who could have helped me build the kit AND do the tuning then I would have gone local. IPD, I am sure will help me diagnose things in the future(if there is a need) and I am confident in their ability but a tuner down the street will have a much easier time "fixing" things when they can drive it and physically touch it.<p>I am greatful that I found P1, which is about an hour away but they were the ONLY place even close to me that would attempt to work on a volvo.<br>
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (R_Rated)

As far as recomendations. I have the GT30R. This is a good size turbo that I had titanium blades put on and ported and polished the day it went on. (this was "fun" from a time standpoint) My R will make respectable numbers on the dyno but spools way faster than the stock K24. This IMO is a great combo for fast 0-60 times as well as great times next time I go to an HPDE day. The GT35R will without a doubt make more power. There is a Tiburon in my club putting 650hp to all four wheels (yes, awd) with a GT35R but takes a bit to spool. So the drawback here is spoolage delay.<p>If your car never goes to a track day but you just want to be able to clearly "rale" M3's and S4's then get a GT28R which will "only" put your R at 400hp range.<p>Hardware even though a PITA on these cars is one thing. The other and more important thing is to get the ECU programed accordingly. The reason I went with IPD was because of they had a proven tune for the bigger turbo. When I got the R, Evolve had a kit "around the corner" and it seems as if there are alot of products for the R like this that we are all still waiting for. I did not want to wait another 10 months and still not have a solution. This is just me being impatient. The reason I was so confident with IPD was their history with volvos and them teaming up with TME/MTE and the collective experience gives them more resources than any tuner in the US. Plus they are the only tuner that has a "following" that is consistant and does not have a hanful of pissed of customers. Their customers seem to get hooked and be return cutomers. This means alot to me because I know they will be here in the future when I have questions. Ever since the svenske thing went down and any company could have some skeletons that somehow get out, I like that they will be around. These same considerations should be relivant to a local tuner. I have driven several cars that are in my club and a product of Batlground and can speack for them. They are all very, very , very fast.
 

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thanks for all the info guys <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> R_Rated, your car is beautiful. if anyone else has [or will] do it, please share! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (R_Rated)

What is needed in a turbo upgrade besides the turbo? Keep in mind I know nothing. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> IS the GT28R a good upgrade? I'm looking (for the future) to do a complete modification including ECU flash, Exhaust, Downpipe. If a bigger modded turbo is selected such as the above, do you have to get a map to go with it?? A specific ECU flash?? if that makes sense... Also, what about installation?? Difficult?? I would think so.. but have no idea. I have a 05' Geartronic<p>Thanks..<p>Jeremy
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (Js05S60R)

There are few that have done turbo upgrades on the R. I am NOT one of them. I am taking the easier route and adding nitrous. <p>To do the turbo upgrade will cost you about $8,000 to $10,000 after you factor in a new FMIC, down pipe, exhaust, turbo, plumbing, ECU (Unless you get a turbo that already has a tune you will have to get one created), etc. In other words not cheap!<p>If you are serious about doing it, I might recommend getting a down pipe, exhaust and ECU upgrade first. If not enough I am going to have some information soon on a 50 shot of nitrous that should put the R around 325ish (wheel hp).<p>Just an FYI. It is not a simple plug and play, but if you have the money and time, I say go for it! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (Rangeball)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Rangeball</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are few that have done turbo upgrades on the R. I am NOT one of them. I am taking the easier route and adding nitrous. <p>To do the turbo upgrade will cost you about $8,000 to $10,000 after you factor in a new FMIC, down pipe, exhaust, turbo, plumbing, ECU (Unless you get a turbo that already has a tune you will have to get one created), etc. In other words not cheap!<p>If you are serious about doing it, I might recommend getting a down pipe, exhaust and ECU upgrade first. If not enough I am going to have some information soon on a 50 shot of nitrous that should put the R around 325ish (wheel hp).<p>Just an FYI. It is not a simple plug and play, but if you have the money and time, I say go for it! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE>i have the DP/ECU planned for when IPD releases their softloader. at that point ill getm y exhasut redone as well. i KNOW that ill want more power, for hte sake of having more power...so i already know i want to do a turbo upgrade, aquamist, bigger injectors, and FMIC..i want to make _at least_ 350 to the wheels -- im not into running nitrous.<p>R_Rated is running the GT30R, and ipd already has a map for it, so that's probably what i will be going with. boosted has a 35R, but i dont want that much lag, plus it's rated at 600+HP, and i dont think my car will _ever_ make that much power.
 

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Svenke used to offer a lesser upgrade in the form of larger blades (I think) and polished/enlarged insides. I believe it was meant as a staight replacement for the stock. Anyone else offers something like that?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Randall</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Svenke used to offer a lesser upgrade in the form of larger blades (I think) and polished/enlarged insides. I believe it was meant as a staight replacement for the stock. Anyone else offers something like that?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There has been another KKK rebuild recently but the urbo isn't on the car yet.<br>I guess this will take another month, maybe 2.<br>After that some tuning is needed.<p>The turbo itself has some K26 parts in it and some clipping is done to the exhaust side.<br>I estimate it will make a solid 380 bhp, over 400 WHP for you guys.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I think the owner will report by the time all is in place.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I estimate it will make a solid 380 bhp, over 400 WHP for you guys.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE>i don't understand this.
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (Rangeball)

quick question: if a person wanted to upgrade the turbo of their s60 car in the future, wouldn't it be better just get a base s60 2.5t and upgrade the turbo rather than buying an R since you are going to replace the turbo anyways? I know the R has bigger brakes, but if we are just looking at speed performancec, it seems more reasonable to me to just save the money and buy the 2.5t and use the money you saved to upgrade the turbo.
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (smartytai)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>smartytai</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quick question: if a person wanted to upgrade the turbo of their s60 car in the future, wouldn't it be better just get a base s60 2.5t and upgrade the turbo rather than buying an R since you are going to replace the turbo anyways? I know the R has bigger brakes, but if we are just looking at speed performancec, it seems more reasonable to me to just save the money and buy the 2.5t and use the money you saved to upgrade the turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The R engine is stronger.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cicada</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't understand this.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just an inside joke.<p>Some of the Dynojet WHP numbers posted are higher than the actual crank HP numbers.<p>Lets just say take some of the posted numbers with a grain of salt.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>smartytai</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quick question: if a person wanted to upgrade the turbo of their s60 car in the future, wouldn't it be better just get a base s60 2.5t and upgrade the turbo rather than buying an R since you are going to replace the turbo anyways? I know the R has bigger brakes, but if we are just looking at speed performancec, it seems more reasonable to me to just save the money and buy the 2.5t and use the money you saved to upgrade the turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>also awd, 6-speed manual, the R motor as mentioned also has some differences interbally. Also the bigger air dam in the front makes a difference. There is not a big enough cost difference between the 2 do a brake upgrade much less everything else.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>There has been another KKK rebuild recently but the urbo isn't on the car yet.<br>I guess this will take another month, maybe 2.<br>After that some tuning is needed.<p>The turbo itself has some K26 parts in it and some clipping is done to the exhaust side.<br>I estimate it will make a solid 380 bhp, over 400 WHP for you guys.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I think the owner will report by the time all is in place. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Now that would be a very interesting upgrade. Something I would like to look into. How long till you are done with it? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (smartytai)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>smartytai</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quick question: if a person wanted to upgrade the turbo of their s60 car in the future, wouldn't it be better just get a base s60 2.5t and upgrade the turbo rather than buying an R since you are going to replace the turbo anyways? I know the R has bigger brakes, but if we are just looking at speed performancec, it seems more reasonable to me to just save the money and buy the 2.5t and use the money you saved to upgrade the turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here's my opinion on the matter.<p>Take the money that you would spend on a new/slightly used R. Go find yourself a pre-owned S60 2.5T AWD.<p>Pull the motor, bore it out a wee bit, replace all the internals, slap on a fancy turbo, FMIC, R-front bumper cover. Find a junkyard R and buy the 6-speed manual tranny and shifter, and install along with a SPEC 3 clutch. Then I'd run with Heico's downpipe and dual-outlet cat-back exhaust system. <p>Rip out the shocks/springs and go with a coil-over setup, and get ipd's track-spec sway bars for the R, along with QBM's end links. Put <A HREF="http://www.heicosportiv.de/nextshopcms/cmsimage-render-v3.asp?id=3949&fkt=0&mw=600&mh=600&qlt=60&shp=101" TARGET="_blank">this brake kit</A> on the car, along with some Heico wheels of your choice (HRE thinks their wheels are made of crack, and their pricing reflects their belief). Of course, stainless steel brake lines included.<p>And if you wanted, you could even take the entire interior out of that junkyard R and put it into the car you're building. <p>If you did all that, I think you'd have a car that's WAY faster (in a straight line) than most heavily modded R's, and would definitely out-handle an R in the turns. So you'd get everything that's great about the R, with none of it's downfalls (i.e. 4C), in a vehicle that would outperform an R, for about the same price as a new one. <p>But then you're stuck with a couple year old pre-owned car that's got roughly 20 grand more put into it than what it's worth. To each his own, though.
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (R Salesman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Salesman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rip out the shocks/springs and go with a coil-over setup, and get ipd's track-spec sway bars for the R, along with QBM's end links. Put <A HREF="http://www.heicosportiv.de/nextshopcms/cmsimage-render-v3.asp?id=3949&fkt=0&mw=600&mh=600&qlt=60&shp=101" TARGET="_blank">this brake kit</A> on the car, along with some Heico wheels of your choice (HRE thinks their wheels are made of crack, and their pricing reflects their belief). Of course, stainless steel brake lines included. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is going off topic a bit, but does anyone have an idea of how long till we see an alternative shock for the R?
 

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Re: Turbo Upgrade... (Rangeball)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Rangeball</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>This is going off topic a bit, but does anyone have an idea of how long till we see an alternative shock for the R? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>What do you mean, alternative shock? Do you mean one that works with 4C, or one that is just a standard shock?<p>If it's the former, I would take a wild guess and say never for several reasons. If it's the latter, I'm sure you could use any aftermarket shock that would work on a non-R S60 / V70, no?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Randall</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Svenke used to offer a lesser upgrade in the form of larger blades (I think) and polished/enlarged insides. I believe it was meant as a staight replacement for the stock ...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>A couple guys gave up a couple turbos for Svenske to work with which, to my knowledge, have not been returned.
 
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