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Hello, I took my XC60 for around 102K service and discovered it's around $1-1.2K at the dealer (used them from Day 1), ouch. Thought I just did a major service and now this one is pricey, too.

Here's also what's up:
"Transmission fluid is dark and burnt, seems to have shifting issue forming, he noticed during the initial test drive. Is this something you have noticed? We have try a transmission fluid service and perform a shift point adaption which may help. $950 Transmission fluid only $520, but this may be signs of other trouble."

Experience or thoughts around this?

It leads me to my bigger question --- I have had this vehicle paid off for a few years (that's a a great feeling!!) and still love it and it drives, looks, and works great in every way --- but, what should I know from your collective experience on this particular vehicle and feasibility that I can hold it for a while still and not be hit with massive charges??? Is this a good candidate for a long-term hold, the 2010.5 XC60 or should I start planning for a replacement???

Also, you may remember an earlier post from me about a year ago (or less) that there was at least one cylinder that had a seal issue and engine had to get rebuilt. That one, Volvo NA agreed to take care of it for me free and not cost me thousands of dollars.

So, where am I sitting right now? Is it ill-advised to think that I can get another relatively painless 50-75K and few years out of her or is it going to be expensive and start thinking of alternatives?????

Thanks a lot for your thoughts.
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"Transmission fluid is dark and burnt..." Advice needed!

Hi Shawn! When I first changed the transmission fluid on my S80, it had 100,000 miles on it. The fluid was also dark and brunt. Which is fairly normal for a Volvo transmission with 100,000 miles. I recommend you find a competent European shop to do a transmission fluid drain and fill only. The transmission is actually made in Japan by Aisin which is a subsidiary of Toyota so you can use Toyota Type T-IV transmission fluid which is much cheaper without issue. You will have to reset the transmission fluid counter using a tool like VIDA or a high-end scanner that most mechanics will have. At your mileage, I would also recommend changing the angle gear fluid, Haldex fluid and filter and rear differential fluid.
Let me know if you need any more guidance. I’m here to help! —- edit—- By the way, the shop I went to (Graham Rahal Performance in Brownsburg, IN) Charged me $140 labor for the transmission and $70 each for the angle gear, Haldex and rear diff. You can get a case of 12 quarts of Toyota T-IV transmission fluid on eBay for around $100. This is more than you’ll need so you can have some left over for next time.
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I know you'll gotten Goodwill from Volvo before, but those days are probably in the past. So, with that said, I suggest going to an indie Volvo specialist to help keep costs down, or do some yourself. Doing something like a filter change can save yourself hundreds alone.

As far as reliability, it sounds like you haven't had any major issues. The engine issue was addressed and properly corrected. Do you have any other issues with the car currently? Fluid changes are just a normal service in my opinion. Although there is the whole "lifetime fluid" argument.

Next will be suspension work as that slowly ages. Beside that, I see no reason it wouldn't last another 100k if properly maintained with basic maintainence.
 

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Do a drain and fill several times....there are several utube vids how to do it
 

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Thanks guys for your post.
My car has also 100K miles. Transmission fluid was the same: dark and burnt.
Gears change smoothly and always have but I fear that the transmission is damaged judging by the appearance of the fluid...
IF in time transmission reveals to be worn, what type of work is supposed to be done on the transmission and what will it cost?
If any idea thanks for your response.
Greetings from France.
 

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Thanks guys for your post.
My car has also 100K miles. Transmission fluid was the same: dark and burnt.
Gears change smoothly and always have but I fear that the transmission is damaged judging by the appearance of the fluid...
IF in time transmission reveals to be worn, what type of work is supposed to be done on the transmission and what will it cost?
If any idea thanks for your response.
Greetings from France.
All of them are dark and burnt at that mileage, especially since there is no fluid filter. Nothing to worry about. Just change it and keep driving!


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Hi Shawn! When I first changed the transmission fluid on my S80, it had 100,000 miles on it. The fluid was also dark and brunt. Which is fairly normal for a Volvo transmission with 100,000 miles. I recommend you find a competent European shop to do a transmission fluid drain and fill only. The transmission is actually made in Japan by Aisin which is a subsidiary of Toyota so you can use Toyota Type T-IV transmission fluid which is much cheaper without issue. You will have to reset the transmission fluid counter using a tool like VIDA or a high-end scanner that most mechanics will have. At your mileage, I would also recommend changing the angle gear fluid, Haldex fluid and filter and rear differential fluid.
Let me know if you need any more guidance. I’m here to help! —- edit—- By the way, the shop I went to (Graham Rahal Performance in Brownsburg, IN) Charged me $140 labor for the transmission and $70 each for the angle gear, Haldex and rear diff. You can get a case of 12 quarts of Toyota T-IV transmission fluid on eBay for around $100. This is more than you’ll need so you can have some left over for next time.
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Is the Toyota T-IV fluid used just for the transmission or do I need separate fluid for the angle gear, and rear diff? My volvo dealer parts guy has not heard of the Haldex. Please advise.
 

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Is the Toyota T-IV fluid used just for the transmission or do I need separate fluid for the angle gear, and rear diff? My volvo dealer parts guy has not heard of the Haldex. Please advise.
T-IV is just for the transmission. You need different oil for the angle gear, haldex, and rear diff. The angle gear and rear diff are the same fluid. The haldex uses AOC Volvo fluid. They are technically called "transmission" fluids, though.

The part numbers change depending on your year, so check those out.
 

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T-IV is just for the transmission. You need different oil for the angle gear, haldex, and rear diff. The angle gear and rear diff are the same fluid. The haldex uses AOC Volvo fluid. They are technically called "transmission" fluids, though.

The part numbers change depending on your year, so check those out.
Thank you for the info. It is too bad that my parts department rep doesn't know this info. I just need to find the DIY video that was posted on here.
 

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As stated, Haldex uses AOC fluid. It stands for Active On-demand Coupling. There is a little electronically driven hydraulic fluid pump that pressurizes the AOC fluid to engage the clutch that connects the rear driveshaft to the rear differential, and therefore sends power to the rear wheels on-demand. This system is known as the Haldex system. It is kind of disturbing that a Volvo parts guy couldn't figure out what you're talking about.
 

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Thank you for the info. It is too bad that my parts department rep doesn't know this info. I just need to find the DIY video that was posted on here.
If you're planning on doing the service yourself, all the fluids and service parts (Genuine Volvo) can be purchased online. I recommend FCPEuro.com as they have full service kits assembled with all the pieces you will need.
 

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As stated, Haldex uses AOC fluid. It stands for Active On-demand Coupling. There is a little electronically driven hydraulic fluid pump that pressurizes the AOC fluid to engage the clutch that connects the rear driveshaft to the rear differential, and therefore sends power to the rear wheels on-demand. This system is known as the Haldex system. It is kind of disturbing that a Volvo parts guy couldn't figure out what you're talking about.
I think it's because a lot of people are leasing, so they don't really have too many people that keep them long enough to run through this type of maintenance.
 

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If you're planning on doing the service yourself, all the fluids and service parts (Genuine Volvo) can be purchased online. I recommend FCPEuro.com as they have full service kits assembled with all the pieces you will need.
I'm going to buy the Toyata T-IV fluid for the transmission and then Genuine Volvo for the transfer case, haldex, and angle gears.
 

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Final question: how much angle gear oil do I need and how many liters does the haldex consume? I know that the transmission consumes 8 liters.
 

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This is what the dealership told me. They will also only do a flush, so I opted to do it on my own because I want a drain and fill.
 

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Separate 1L bottles will do each of the angle, rear, and AOC. The smallest size you can get is 1L anyway.

The specs are like 0.8L or that.
 

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Separate 1L bottles will do each of the angle, rear, and AOC. The smallest size you can get is 1L anyway.

The specs are like 0.8L or that.
Going to order from FCP, and pick it up in the states, I am Canadian, but have a PO box. How many liters does the transmission take? 4 or 8? The transmission kit sells in 4 liters.
 

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I'm going to buy the Toyata T-IV fluid for the transmission and then Genuine Volvo for the transfer case, haldex, and angle gears.
Don't use oem for angle and tcase , its not even syn. fluid. Use a good syn fluid of the right weight ….I use amsoil severe gear
 
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