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I am headed to Infineon in a few weeks for two days on the track and am in need of new tires and was hoping that some of the guys here could give me some advice. I have been running the Nero M&S year round but they have been plugged so I can not use them on the track. I am going to get another set of them for this winter but am not sure what to do for the track. I was looking at the Falken Azenis but am not all that excited about buying two sets of tires back to back. Am I going to be dissapointed with a new set of Neros on the track? Is it worth it to buy another set of tires just for that weekend? Would appreciate any help you guys with experience can give.<br>Thanks
 

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Re: Track Tires (Reno R)

I am a tire God. Also since you had Nero M+S you know good tires, they are my favorite normal tire for the S60R. <p>The Kumho ECSTA SPT (KU31) is what I recommend for track. In the 18" it is 95Y XL and it is 112 dollars at tirerack. The 17" are only 88 with a 97W rating but the 18" wheels are better for brake ventilation<p>You can take it to the limit at the track much more than an all season but since you will wear them at the track the price is good<p>The tire God has spoken <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Track Tires (Helmut Ranff)

I agree... The Kumho SPT does a fine job at the track and is CHEAP... If you're not making track days a weekly occurence, this is the way to go!!!
 

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Re: Track Tires (Reno R)

You might want to have TireRack shave and/or heat cycle the tires first. Both would add $30/tire to the price/tire. You don't want brand new tires out on the track and if you trash them on the 1st day... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Also if you run 17"s, the Kumho VictoRacer is an option in a 245 profile (but @ $160 ea). No need to worry about rubbing on the track since you won't be at full lock anywhere but in the paddock.
 

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Thanks for the help. I am going to look into the Kumho. I am going to run them for about a week before hand so i will probably not ask them shave and heat the tires but that is a good suggestion. How much brake do you think I will go through in a day a the track? Just trying to decide if I should change the pads before I head down there.<br>
 

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good advice... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Track Tires (Reno R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reno R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much brake do you think I will go through in a day a the track? Just trying to decide if I should change the pads before I head down there.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>If you are at 50-60% you're probably fine for two days. I would worry less about wearing through the pads than heat transfer to the calipers/fluid. <p>You can cook the fluid and destroy your dust boots in short order. The more pad material you have the better protected those are. You might also want to consider the Takspeed titanium pad shims for better thermal protection. <p>If your fluid is more than 2 years old you might consider a flush and fill but being in Reno I doubt your fluid picks up moisture as quickly as up here in the 9 months of wet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Forget that get another set of rims and buy a great track tire, the Nitto 01, that is the tire that you'll need for the track. Well they work great on the Subaru, so I'll bet they work great on the "R" i'm looking into and set for my "R" along with the rims to boot. nothing like out handling ppl on the track with the big beast and a great track tire. If only I could use the 17" rims and tire set from my Sti, dam that sucks. Azenis are cool I have a set, but make sure you have some miles on them before you take them to the track or you will slide all over the place, they suck brand new. <br><IMG SRC="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/6/6_6_101.gif" BORDER="0"><p>
 

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I was going to suggest a whole rim/tire setup... But it sounded like the track wasn't a regular occurence...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dugums</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was going to suggest a whole rim/tire setup... But it sounded like the track wasn't a regular occurence...</TD></TR></TABLE><br>yeah sounds that way to me too, but I couldn't help it I just got into it hehe. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I don't want to hijack the post, but I would like to know if running on a road course using a GT tranny would a size 245 45 17 fit the "R" using a 8.5 rim oppose to running a 18' rim using a narrower tire
 

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Yeah, this is just going to be a fun weekend and not a regular thing. Thats why I don't want to spend the money on a dedicated setup.
 

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For those that don't know, Reno R is my son. He got me the two day track session as a father's day/Birthday present, and the same for himself. We are taking both R's over (my V70 R and his S60 R). It's great when the kids are old enough (and have a job) to get you great presents. oclv
 

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I didn't want to spend the money either but street tires just don't hold up to my style of driving. <p><IMG SRC="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/t34will/IMG_0585.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>That is a pic of my front left tire after two days on the track. It is now on my rear and I have gone to a dedicated track setup. <p><IMG SRC="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/t34will/IMG_0384.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>It is hard to see but those are the Falken 615 Azenis.<p>The choice really comes down to how hard you are going to drive the car. You can get by with streets, just don't push the car and keep an eye on pressure. I over inflated the tire and that is the reason why that one tire is so bad <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> . Just something to keep in mind. <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Edit: In my morning ramble, I meant to say; if you are going to run street tires keep a very close eye on the thread wear and on tire pressure. Or else your tire could look like mine!<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Rangeball at 8:14 AM 8-24-2006</i>
 

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Re: Track Tires (Reno R)

So far the Michelin PS2's did pretty well for me. It is driving on the edge but the tires behave nice in this area. Don't know about AutoX though. I run normal street pressure 40.6 psi. a tad lower in the rear.<p>
 

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I goofed, I inflated the left front to 41 when I should have inflated the tire to 39. The tire heated up and after I got off on the hottest session of the day I went and checked the pressure and it was at like 43 or 44! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> I readjusted all of the tires but it was too late. The tire was toast and I moved it to the rear where it has stayed. <p>The worst part was that the tires only had like 3k on them. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> I am just going to get as much wear on them and then switch to either the Falken 452's or NT 555's. <p>I wanted to post on this yesterday but forgot to take a picture of my tire. I am still a novice at the track (well intermidate now) and I am still learning to control the beast. I think my personal style of driving was the cause of the tire. Hence the reason for getting dedicated track tires.
 
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