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i have noticed that my throttle has been a little bit touchy. for example ill accelerate and then all the sudden the RPM will shoot up 300-500 rpm and the car will jump a bit. also when i shift from 2-3 and take my foot off the gas pedel i get this drop and the car slows down some. it kind of feels liek the geartronic finally put it in gear. i have a 04 s60r gt. any help is appreciated.<p>thanks ahead of time<br>chris
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>p0cket penguins</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have noticed that my throttle has been a little bit touchy. for example ill accelerate and then all the sudden the RPM will shoot up 300-500 rpm and the car will jump a bit. also when i shift from 2-3 and take my foot off the gas pedel i get this drop and the car slows down some. it kind of feels liek the geartronic finally put it in gear. i have a 04 s60r gt. any help is appreciated.<p>thanks ahead of time<br>chris</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have the same problems with my car. <p>It is especially noticable when calling for a downshift (not in GT mode) from 5th to 4th the revs will flare up, drop by about 500rpm, then start climbing again, like it is slipping on the shift. <p>Also, if I shift in GT mode with my foot off the gas, the results are nasty.<p>I have had it in the shop once for the first problem, and they "could not replicate". I haven't had it back since (tried another dealer). I'm going to schedule another appointment to have it looked at where I can drive with the tech. <p>
 

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Re: touchy throttle (needsdecaf)

yeah i think there might be a tnn for the flair ups so the shifting can be smooth i need to get all this done before i start moding more than just my tints
 

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Re: touchy throttle (p0cket penguins)

Sounds like normal torque converter lock up function to me. Or not, the GT sucks donkey balls.
 

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Re: touchy throttle (Mika)

My GT has been in 2 times for this. (I forget the TNN) The dealer will "<B>re-train</B>" the tranny by putting it through the <B>adaptation process</B>. This process has put my car back into a <B>crisp shifting machine</B>. Then after that prcess is completed, drive the car like you stole it for a day or two. I treated it like an old lady the first time and the EXACT same symptoms were back in 1 month. The second time I used the "drive it like I stole it" for 2 days and all is well 4 months later. Rick
 

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Re: touchy throttle (Mika)

why would you say my car sucks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>tell boosted his gt sucks he will make you cry
 

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I've seen the "adaptation process" mentioned before, is this something that the dealer can easily initiate when Im there just having my oil changed? Will they charge me a fee if I request it by prefacing with a complaint about the flares?<p>Im just wondering if this adaptation process is something similar to a "reset" of the computer on some cars to retrain the ECU with updated components.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your mom sucks donkey balls</TD></TR></TABLE><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> Neccessary??? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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The adaptation process just resets the tranny. NOT the ecu. They will need 1-2 hours to do this. They will slowly take each gear and "set" them by doing a number of slow runs and then a few faster runs once each gear is re-trained. This should be under warranty! Rick
 

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Re: touchy throttle (p0cket penguins)

i've had the shift flare problems before, but never requested a fix when i took it in....it hasn't happened in a long time, though.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mika</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like normal torque converter lock up function to me. Or not, the GT sucks donkey balls.</TD></TR></TABLE> I would love to show you how my GT fairs against your stick! I could give you some tips from my <B>rear view mirror!</B> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> Most of them do stink unless you get rid of the torque limiting and add a few minor mods.
 

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Re: touchy throttle (Mika)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mika</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or not, the GT sucks donkey balls.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think the fact that we don't have to have our axles loctited every 6 months is a plus. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>About the only one, though. <p>This is not normal 2k-3k flare. I have had that TNN done and it worked. This is something different. <p>
 

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Re: touchy throttle (needsdecaf)

I did mean to insult anyone's car (or mom, or donkey's balls). <p>I meant the transmission itself is less than perfect in its shift feel, among other things. It's hard to tell if it's broken or is the shift behavior 'normal'. GT cars can be made fast, without a question. And some of them may work fine, for all I know.
 

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Re: touchy throttle (Mika)

Beep ..... Beep ..... Beep ........<p>I wonder if you can buy a donkey for the cost of a clutch replacement that we won't have to pay for?<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>-Ben
 

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Re: touchy throttle (bcantana)

Who says I have a manual? I've got a 5-speed GT and I'm hating it. If I was making a choice now, I would take the new 6-speed GT instead of 6-speed manual though. I don't have time to shift myself, I am a busy guy, as my cousin used to say.<p>Although, I drove stick for over 10 years, never burned a clutch, never even had to replace one. Now I'm too old to bother.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bcantana</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Beep ..... Beep ..... Beep ........<p>I wonder if you can buy a donkey for the cost of a clutch replacement that we won't have to pay for?<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>-Ben</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, except our trannies have a limited life, wheras MT's last forever and you only have to replace the clutch. <p>Although seeing what OCLV paid for his, you could almost buy a new trans for the same amount!<p>We don't have to worry about angle gears either. <p>That brings up a point.....a while back Jim Lill did a poll about angle gear failure, and they were all Manual transmissions. I wondered if it was because the neutered torque in our GT's was getting the better of us. <p>I wonder if '06 GT's, with the full compliment of torque, will start having the same problem?
 
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