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I brought the S into a Pasadena dealership while I was away for the weekend in Vancouver (nice city). I complained about the following.<p>broken driver side windshield molding would flap in the wind<br>clunking noise when shifting gears and on and off throttle<br>surging during wot acceleration<br>engine would seem to lose power for a split second at highway speeds<p>I also asked them to:<br>change my sum back to the original 2004 rev.<br>download part number to have my fogs stay on with highbeams<p>Outcome:<br>broken windshield molding fixed -$69<br>clunking - NORMAL within Volvo spec<br>surging - NORMAL engine management, over revving protection<br>loss of power - Couldn't duplicate<br>suspension rev - NO<br>Foglight software - NO<p>I don't think a car should clunk as much as mine does. I don't think that the engine is protecting itself at 3500 rpm when accelerating. Loss of power at highway speeds, I think there has been enough history with fuel pump failures to warrant a change. <p>
 

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Re: Took the R to the Dealer for service (steamboatsig)

I think it's probably time for a new dealer to service your car. <p>Also, I'm not sure if it's possible to revert to older SUM setups once you have upgraded.
 

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Re: Took the R to the Dealer for service (Vipergtsz3)

welcome to the wonderful world of volvo service. volvo may have made the R a "performance" car....but most volvo service departments dont' know what the word means. they just want to change oil, brake pads, and bill you for the 60,000 mile service.<p>there are good dealers. just gotta find one.
 

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Re: Took the R to the Dealer for service (steamboatsig)

Clunks are NOT normal<br>Surging.. has this car ever had the Volvo ECU (12/04) upgrade?<br>Did this car ever have a SUM upgrade?<br>It can only go back to what it came with. If it was a late 04 it will have rev 3 and cannot go back.<br>You can't just drop it off and have a dealer do this. It takes the rep to get a specific download so unless you have a relationship with him (factory rep) he won't bother, IT TAKES EFFORT <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> on his part
 

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Re: Took the R to the Dealer for service (steamboatsig)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>steamboatsig</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I brought the S into a Pasadena dealership while I was away for the weekend in Vancouver (nice city). I complained about the following.<p>broken driver side windshield molding would flap in the wind<br>clunking noise when shifting gears and on and off throttle<br>surging during wot acceleration<br>engine would seem to lose power for a split second at highway speeds<p>I also asked them to:<br>change my sum back to the original 2004 rev.<br>download part number to have my fogs stay on with highbeams<p>Outcome:<br>broken windshield molding fixed -$69<br>clunking - NORMAL within Volvo spec<br>surging - NORMAL engine management, over revving protection<br>loss of power - Couldn't duplicate<br>suspension rev - NO<br>Foglight software - NO<p>I don't think a car should clunk as much as mine does. I don't think that the engine is protecting itself at 3500 rpm when accelerating. Loss of power at highway speeds, I think there has been enough history with fuel pump failures to warrant a change. <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>To echo Jim, clunks are not normal. Make sure they perform the axle ping TNN. <p>Also, make sure you are upgraded to the latest ECU software. It took much of my surging out of play when I had this performed.<p>Your dealer sounds like my dealer.
 

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Thanks guys. JRL, to answer your question, my car was bought in Feb '04. That probably isn't considered late '04 but I could be wrong. And yes the engine update has been performed.<p>Maybe I should just buy the Turbo Control Valve.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by steamboatsig at 9:06 PM 7-17-2006</i>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>steamboatsig</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks guys. JRL, to answer your question, my car was bought in Feb '04. That probably isn't considered late '04 but I could be wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>So probably a late 2003 build which would originally be a Rev2.
 

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Delivery, purchase, don't mean a thing to the date of the car. <p>Look on the driver's side B pillar for the chassis info. It will tell you the date that your car was BUILT.
 

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Re: Took the R to the Dealer for service (steamboatsig)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>steamboatsig</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>...on and off throttle<br>surging during wot acceleration<br>engine would seem to lose power for a split second at highway speeds<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>This sounds like a fuel pressure sensor malfuntion, I had it, some others too. Could also be a faulty turbo soneloid valve, try this as it is much easier to swap for a new one, if the problem is not solved it could very well be the fuel pressure sensor; both may not produce a code and not be duplicated at the dealers <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> as usual.
 

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Re: Took the R to the Dealer for service (Jayam)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Jayam</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>This sounds like a fuel pressure sensor malfuntion, I had it, some others too. Could also be a faulty turbo soneloid valve, try this as it is much easier to swap for a new one, if the problem is not solved it could very well be the fuel pressure sensor; both may not produce a code and not be duplicated at the dealers <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> as usual.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You know my saying, if it doesn't throw a code, it's not happening in the dealer's eyes.
 

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Re: Took the R to the Dealer for service (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know my saying, if it doesn't throw a code, it's not happening in the dealer's eyes.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Isn't that the truth.
 

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Re: Took the R to the Dealer for service (Jayam)

Sometimes I think it is easier to get an issue resolved when the car eventually breaks down and leaves you stranded. I only hope that I don't have a client in the car when it does finally happen. <p>I suspect the engine cutting out for the split second at highway speeds has something to do with the fuel pump or fuel pressure sensor, but I can't be sure. Driving my S60R while experiencing the split second loss of power is like driving my 1977 Westfalia and wondering if it is going to make it to my destination. <p>In regards to the fog lights, they said it was illegal. Fair enough.<p>With respect to going back to the original suspension software, they said it cannot be done. Whatever, I am soooo over arguing with them.
 

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It's not just Volvo dealers that use these practices.<br>When my transmission was failing on my '02 Acura 3.2 TL Type-S it was pretty obvious to me. The car would downshift at highway speeds extremely abrupt. I told Acura of Bellevue about it twice and they did nothing. I pointed out the well known fact that there were a batch of bad tranny's on '02 TL-S', but until transmission actually failed, nothing was done. Let's just say I was pretty "direct" with the service advisor when I brought the car in for a third time with the failed transmission.<br>I don't think it really matters what kind of car you own when it comes to getting something fixed that isn't really broker yet, but just about to fail. They don't care about that.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by flybynight at 12:31 PM 7-18-2006</i>
 
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