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I love Volvos-have had 4, own 3 right now. One is a 2005 s60R manual with
125K. I gambled it wouldn't cost me an arm and a leg because it had so many
recent repairs: Timing Belt/Idler pulley/tensioner/water pump, brakes/rotors,
front shocks, wheel bearings, serpentine belt-you get the picture. Had it
checked out by local Volvo shop-said it looked great, even pressure test was
very good. So I bought it-replaced "american racing" wheels with new Volvo
PEGS, new Michelin Tires, and some interior cosmetic stuff. Sweet car,
paint/cosmetically beautiful too. THEN, needed steering rack, rear
shocks/mounts, both lower control arms, steering column-about 7K more
(paid 7K for car 10 months ago at 118K). Now I am told the bevel gear is
"wet" and needs replaced sometime soon-and may need a new driveshaft
(makes little knock when starting out). I love the car, enjoy driving it
alot but am feeling like I have entered the twilight zone of never
ending expenses-but know I can't sell it for anything close to what I have
in it. Am I alone in my blissful misery or is this the typical "price you
pay" to drive this particular car? What other major issues are looming?
Do the multitude of major repairs "rank" if selling to informed buyer? What
could I ask for it realistically if decide I cut and run, to buy a toyota?
 

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If you aren't doing your own work then sell it....

How deep are you pockets? These cars love you if you love them.

Including maintenance costs I am underwater in my VR but it's worth it to me
 

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I don't do the work myself-and had alot done at dealer-but recently have found lesser expensive shops that seem to know what they are doing.
I have 14 K in the car now and have only had it for 10 months. If I sell it for 6-7K (?) then thats really expensive driving.
Would love to drive it awhile but worry repairs will never end. I love the timeless styling and the way it drives, and have already invested
7K above purchase price. I realize there is no "right" answer but appreciate others comments.
 

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They cost a lot if you take it to a shop.

Most of the time the angle/bevel gear can be resealed if it is JUST leaking fluid and not stripped out...

If it is indeed the driveshaft causing the clunk, there are usually plenty of intact, good ones at the wreck yard.

These cars are getting old with lots of miles, they really don't belong at the dealer anymore unless you just really enjoy their service department. Find a indie VOLVO/euro specialist in your area.

The only repair that is going to rank super high would be the new shocks, they're super expensive. Condition is what maters most these days IMO.
 

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Shaft may only need the front bearing replacement and for that there is a Volvo kit $300 or the ipd one much cheaper.
Wet AG is what we all had when we bought the 04 cars. It took Volvo a while until they issue a TNN for sealing them. I had mine sealed a very long time ago. Volvo has a kit for that and so fcp and ipd at lower prices.

So ... if you like the car so much that you've invested so much already you should enjoy your investment by driving it not selling it.
 

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Biggest looming item I can see from your list is possibly a clutch (although some have gotten far more mileage out of theirs - comes down to driving style primarily IMO). If by driveshaft, you mean propshaft (the one that drives the rear wheels), most likely the U-joint (front and possibly rear) need replacement. They can be serviced for far less than the cost of a new one... contact Colorado Driveshaft. Very easy to do yourself and avoid shipping costs of a driveshaft to them and back, but that option exists as well. I second a re-seal on the angle gear. It warrants a close inspection for damaged splines (visual check) or bad bearings (can check by feel) when removed from the car for the reseal, but may just need the seals. None of the stuff you mentioned above is out of the ordinary for any car of this age/mileage. Like any older car, they require some attention but are truly good cars to own so I would not write yours off yet. It really pays to do your own work if you can.
 

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I hear you. If you're in this deep then you probably need to stay. You will NEVER find a safer, more comfortable car that is unique for this amount of money. What the hell else would you buy? A 15K soul-less amoeba?
As stated, these Rs are often maintenance hogs, but treat it well when it's sorted and it will reward. It's a matter of time to get out of the tunnel, and then you'll have another 120K of relatively trouble free ownership. Tackle the priorities, deal with cosmetics later.
Depending on the price of the pegs, that could have been funding for some of the other things you're still facing. That, and a decent set of pegs is often for sale here for a fair price.
Come here for advice, do as much as you can yourself, and let the indy do the heavy lifting. ReVolv, FCP, Erie VoVo, etc. will get you through (and the help of a strong community and potentially local Volvo enthusiasts).
Where on the planet is your locale?
 

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I hear you. If you're in this deep then you probably need to stay. You will NEVER find a safer, more comfortable car that is unique for this amount of money. What the hell else would you buy? A 15K soul-less amoeba?
As stated, these Rs are often maintenance hogs, but treat it well when it's sorted and it will reward. It's a matter of time to get out of the tunnel, and then you'll have another 120K of relatively trouble free ownership. Tackle the priorities, deal with cosmetics later.
Depending on the price of the pegs, that could have been funding for some of the other things you're still facing. That, and a decent set of pegs is often for sale here for a fair price.
Come here for advice, do as much as you can yourself, and let the indy do the heavy lifting. ReVolv, FCP, Erie VoVo, etc. will get you through (and the help of a strong community and potentially local Volvo enthusiasts).
Where on the planet is your locale?
Appreciate all of your good thoughts/comments. Learning alot. I am re-enthused to keep it and stick with non-dealer shop repairs. Never knew there was a way to seal the bevel gear and will have to look further into driveshaft/prop shaft to see if it might be a u joint (dealer guy said something about inner and outer shaft tubes touching/hitting each other when engaged but will check into). BTW-the clutch was done right before I bought it-so that's good news too. I totally agree that there are no/few cars that are as unique/with timeless styling and are as much fun to drive as the R-for the price to purchase. As ZZZZZZ said above, I am still in the "tunnel" and must need to peek out to see light of day before I can embrace the "R-ness" of the S60. I live in greater Cleveland area.
 

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Appreciate all of your good thoughts/comments. Learning alot. I am re-enthused to keep it and stick with non-dealer shop repairs. Never knew there was a way to seal the bevel gear and will have to look further into driveshaft/prop shaft to see if it might be a u joint (dealer guy said something about inner and outer shaft tubes touching/hitting each other when engaged but will check into). BTW-the clutch was done right before I bought it-so that's good news too. I totally agree that there are no/few cars that are as unique/with timeless styling and are as much fun to drive as the R-for the price to purchase. As ZZZZZZ said above, I am still in the "tunnel" and must need to peek out to see light of day before I can embrace the "R-ness" of the S60. I live in greater Cleveland area.
One last question: the PCV system has not been serviced to my knowledge. Reading about how to clean/replace looks challenging but at 125K is this something I should invest in getting serviced? Is this something best left to a mechanic?
 

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Depending on skill. I never have, but could I probably do it? Sure, but why? I need my car and need to know it's done correctly.
Do a glove test right away and yes - I'd plan on this being something that you need to do soon.
Glove test you ask? Pull the oil cap and put a rubber glove over the filler while running. If it sucks it right in, that's good. If it doesn't then you're in need asap. The other thing my old indy (who either retired or died) used to tell me to refill after an oil change with the dipstick pulled. If it's smoking when the oil is filling through the cap area, that is also sign of a blockage.
One last question: the PCV system has not been serviced to my knowledge. Reading about how to clean/replace looks challenging but at 125K is this something I should invest in getting serviced? Is this something best left to a mechanic?
 

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Holy, yeah its pretty normal.. most owners of Rs work on them themselves or own thier own shop already like I do. I work on cars every day and this thing kills me. Many times i get down by the never ending work load on this car.. More work than ive done to any car ever. BUT, Its like new at 190k.

Unless you want to toss 7k your stuck with your choice. Most definitely find a cheaper shop to work with. Pvc will be needed soon, may stetch that till next year if no problems are showing for it.. run good oil and dont neglect oil changes.

Start doing a few transmission drain and replace cycles if you havent yet, easy to drain it on an oil change pain to fill back up though.
 

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I live in greater Cleveland area.
Dude, seriously?! Where have you been? I was in Cleveland working for about 9 months after I finished school. My list of maintenance items are so similar to yours and we probably could have done them all together. This includes the steering rack, LCAs, anti sway bars, front 4cs, brakes..
UGH!!! I was broadcasting pretty heavily that I was looking for a paRtneR in cRime in Cleveland to share the 'blissful misery' with!
Now I'm in the Tampa, FL area..
 

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Lol. PaRtneR in cRime. That is a nice thing though... I’ve yet to work on maronha’s cars but he’s helped me on mine.
Dude, seriously?! Where have you been? I was in Cleveland working for about 9 months after I finished school. My list of maintenance items are so similar to yours and we probably could have done them all together. This includes the steering rack, LCAs, anti sway bars, front 4cs, brakes..
UGH!!! I was broadcasting pretty heavily that I was looking for a paRtneR in cRime in Cleveland to share the 'blissful misery' with!
Now I'm in the Tampa, FL area..



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