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Can't decide if I should make one more effort to improve 87 245 w/245k, or ditch it and upgrade to a newer model (91-93). The minor and major issues are:<p>Odometer (stopped)<br>Windshield wiper motor (kaputt)<br>Blower motor (screams, and smells like pizza)<br>AC (could live without)<p>Yellow headlights (dim and dingy)<br>Loose headlight and grille (falling off)<br>Door pockets (torn)<br>Glovebox lock (tired)<p>New tires<br>front tires wear unevenly, so need to check for worn suspension parts first<br>steering rack boots (torn)<br>Engine seals (oozing from most, esp bottom)<br>Trailer arm bushings in back<p>Tune-up (? it's been 50K)<p>These are the things I know about. No cooling problems, no electical problems, it starts and runs smooth no matter what with good gas milage. That's why I have neglected it (also lack of funds). <p>Engine and tranny are strong and have been very reliable. Clean interior, no rust, but metallic paint is rotting on roof and hood.<p>What to do? Any opinions?<p><br>
 

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Re: To keep or not to keep... (dagnelson)

The odometer problem could be something as simple as a broken gear in the speedo cluster. Take a look at <A HREF="http://www.homestead.com/volvo2/88speedo.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.homestead.com/volvo2/88speedo.html</A> , and this should help in regards to the little, and big, gear. I think you can get the small white gear for $25 plus $4 shipping. <br>The windshield wiper motor looks like a relatively easy job(accoridng to the Chilton repair manual), and <A HREF="http://fcpgroton.com/volvo240wiperwasher.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://fcpgroton.com/volvo240wiperwasher.htm</A> has a Mission Trading Company and Scan Tech(Boo!) wiper motor for $65, and $105, respectively.<br>In regards to your "body" pieces that need replacing, my suggestion is to go the local Pick & Pull(or equivalent) and see what there is. <br>No matter if you keep your present 245, or purchase a newer model, any used car is going to need at least some attention. The question is, how fond are you of the car, and how much money, and more importantly time, do you have to devote to the automobile. Are there '91-'93 245s for sale in your neck of the woods? Have a good one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: To keep or not to keep... (1sciroccofahrer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>1sciroccofahrer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Are there '91-'93 245s for sale in your neck of the woods? Have a good one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, but that's what I am looking for.<p>And I should have mentioned that for those repairs, I will most likely need to pay someone to do it. I have the time but not the skills.
 

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Re: To keep or not to keep... (dagnelson)

I am probably going to be visiting my sister in Atlanta in the next two months, so if you still have the car, I could definetely help you with the odometer/wiper motor/interior trim pieces/tune-up(excluding fuel filter). If you can find a '91-'93 245, I would suggest going in that direction. Do you want one with a manual, or auto, tranny?
 

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Re: To keep or not to keep... (dagnelson)

dagnelson..............<p><br>I have a 91 240 with 239k miles......and a 90 with 202k miles. The real question is do you want to put $$ into a car who's issues you KNOW?...or buy slightly newer 240 and NOT KNOW what it might or might not need? The situation I see..based on what you are describing is this...if you go out and buy a 91-93 in perfect shape...you are going to spend at least $4k. Question is???would $1500 fix everything on the one you have now? If so...keep what you got and drive th ewheels off of it....when it does finally puke......... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> look for nice slightly used S60!
 

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Re: To keep or not to keep... (dagnelson)

Hi:<p>I can't tell you what you should do, but here are some thoughts:<p>If you won't be doing the work yourself, that alters things considerably. 240's are pretty cheap to repair yourself, but they're fairly expensive to have worked on by others.<p>Most of your issues sound pretty minor and commonplace, except the seals. The front engine oil seals are easy to get to- in fact, they're a routine replacement item when a timing belt is done. The rear main oil seal is a different matter; replacement requires dropping the transmission for access. Your blower fan motor is kind of involved, though. It requires a lot of dash disassembly, so it will cost some money to fix.<p>Since you have a 1987, I would check the engine wiring very thoroughly for rotted/cracked insulation before making any other decisions. 1987 was the last year for "biodegradable" engine wiring (Volvo improved it for 1988), so any rot or cracking will mean that a new engine wiring harness is needed. I personally would not put that into a car that has the other issues you describe; it's an expensive repair, and you could buy a newer car with all the money you'd be spending.<p>If you do NOT have harness rot, then the car sounds like a good car for you to fix back up, and maybe begin learning some basic skills on. Stuff like the grille and map pockets is simple screwdriver work. Maaco has sales on basic paint jobs all the time. While you will spend some money fixing the car up, you will not spend as much as you would on a new car, and you could end up with something that will last as long or longer than a new American automobile. Let's say you ended up with $5K in the car. That is less than one year's payments and insurance on a new car.<p>Like I say, check that engine wiring before proceeding any further. If it's bad, I say sell the car to the next guy with Volvo stars in his eyes, and go get yourself a newer 245.<p>Just my opinion, which is never humble <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: To keep or not to keep... (danemodsandy)

Sell as-is.<p>Shop for and buy a perfect one-owner 200/700/900 wagon.<p>George Dill<p>
 

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Re: To keep or not to keep... (dagnelson)

Thanks for all the great responses. Good advice!<p>First off, I don't want a car loan. A $ 4000 240 is fine with me and I think I could get a decent one. It will cost as much to fix up mine, I think. <p>The wire harness, good point, forgot about that. I will check it.<p>Another advantage of a newer 240 would be onboard diagnostics, airbag, antilock brakes. <br>Disadvantage, more stuff that can break.<p>Then, heck, they're just cars, mine ain't bad, the new used one will need repairs too and will have the same issues...but probably not all at once.<p>scirocco, I might take you up on that offer! Not on all the stuff but maybe the odometer, you're probably faster with that than any mechanic in town...oh and, I'd take any tranny, prefer manual but got spoiled by automatic.<p>Saw an ad for a 1993 wagon in great shape w/369k. In that case the mileage is almost a selling point. Wow. <p>
 

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I always like to see resolution to questions posted, so here it goes: I ended up buying a clean 1992 245 with 142k for $ 4200. That was in August 2006 - 8 years ago. I added 80k and am still driving it today. It's my only transportation. Overall it's been a great car, and a definite improvement from the '87. I sold the '87 for $ 2500. It sold within a week.
 

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Love your new car. It looks like my 1993 245 but like you it also has a lot of issues. People tell me to get a new car. It needs $5000.00 worth of repairs including a new odometer. It had 265200 miles more or less when the odometer stopped.
 
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