Mine (rear springs only) arrived today and are being installed as we speak, will let you know the difference in handling when done as well as the look.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tigers81 at 2:20 PM 2-2-2006</i>
Anyone who wants to drive a (TME) well set up V is welcome to come to the Philly area and drive mine <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>JRL
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has anyone gotten (taken delivery of and installed) the TME springs yet?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hello again everyone, been away for a while (sorry)... Anyways, I did receive my springs on 1/31! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Can anyone recommend a good place to get springs/rear-sway installed in Socal (preferably Orange County)? I've seen people recommend Zen Volvo (but Studio City would be a PITA), but just wondering if there were any other good, non-dealer recommendations...<p>Thanks!<br>-Aaron
I just had my TME springs installed on my S60R at the Volvo dealer and have yet to pick the car up. I was informed by the Tech that something is wrong with the TME rears. They compress so much the coils touch each other and make a terrible sound. Either IPD shipped the wrong springs, TME shipped the wrong springs, labeled the part number wrong, or made an error in the manufacturing process. Be interesting to see if I just got a bum set or everyone has the problem. I don't see anyone who has posted yet that they have had them installed on an S60R so as far as I can tell I'm the first one. (Prototypes wouldn't count.) Unfortunately the finished the alignment this morning and IPD is closed until Monday so I'll have to wait until Monday to find out what IPD thinks.<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by jazee at 10:55 AM 2-4-2006</i>
They are very close, the 2 bottom rear coils will touch at times when compressed. However, they shouldn't make noise but should be covered with a spring wrap to prevent the paint from rubbing off. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>(It's OK though as I haven't done that yet myself)
I think the spring rate, at least the rears are different for the V70R. The dealer said I definitely won't like it. It sounds "really bad" they said. The fact that you are suppose to put a wrap even on your V70 springs to keep the paint from rubbing off raises a yellow flag in general regarding these springs. That just doesn't seem right. The missing piece of info here is at least one other S60R owner's report regarding this batch of springs IPD just received. I live in Washington so it only took the springs one day to get here. It would take 5 days for people on the East Coast. Even though I waited about a week or so before installing them I'm not totally suprised if I'm the first S60R owner to report in. If other owners have the same problem, this is going to be a nightmare for IPD as they (well, TME actually) should pay to have the springs removed and the stock put back in - and it ain't cheap. They're paying for the rental car right now. (Cheaper for 2 days rental than for another 6 hours labor) and I at least want to hear what IPD says once they speak with the Tech at the dealer. Maybe they'll send someone up here since it is only a 3 hr drive. I'm not getting in the car until it is right. Maybe I should just have them send a set of Eibachs or Evolve springs and be done with it as I'm guessing TME made an error in the engineering of the springs, maybe not, but I'm not going to wait unter 3 months for them to fix it. We'll see.<p><i>Modified by jazee at 11:16 AM 2-4-2006</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by jazee at 11:17 AM 2-4-2006</i>
Well that sux...<p>Mine are in the mail, will be here this week. I'm not installing anything that makes really bad noise. Especially since I'm only doing the rears for cosmetic appeal and to help with "tail hop" - doing 22mm rear sway bar as well.<p>Scott, what the hell dude?
Assuming TME made an error on the S60R rear springs. I think my best route is to see if IPD will exchange just the rears for a set of rear Eibachs. So if the front has TME lowering about 5/8" and the rear Eibach lower by about 1.2" then wouldn't the car have a level stance which actually I wouldn't mind having. Just as long as the rear doesn't sit lower than the front. I really wanted to avoid that "lowered" look. Plus, then IPD only has to pay for 3 hrs of labor to R&R the rears instead of all 4 springs. This sucks. I'm never having work done on a Friday/Saturday again - I get to stew over this for 2 days now and drive a gutless Mazda 6 around <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"><br>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jazee</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Assuming TME made an error on the S60R rear springs. I think my best route is to see if IPD will exchange just the rears for a set of rear Eibachs. So if the front has TME lowering about 5/8" and the rear Eibach lower by about 1.2" then wouldn't the car have a level stance which actually I wouldn't mind having. Just as long as the rear doesn't sit lower than the front. I really wanted to avoid that "lowered" look. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You are right about the car would be level with Heicos in the back and TME in the front, that is what the person who bought my front springs is doing I think. <p>I'm doing stock in the front and TME in the back to level out the car.<p>The problem is IPD can only sell TME springs in a set of 4. I had to find a buyer for my fronts. IPD was great about shipping those seperately to my buyer however, and they seem to be very customer friendly. Need to hear from them before I have these installed.. tricky though because my fronts are already delivered to someone else in Washington. <p>Don't know if you can buy the Heicos/Evolve seperately. <p>Tigers81, Eric, Chris - are you having same issue with TMEs?
I'm probably getting a little ahead of myself but I want to be as informed as possible when making a decision about what to do on Monday.<p>If I get the Eibach's in the back, will the tires rub if I don't get a 10mm spacer. I want the wheel alignment/tracking to be as close to stock as possible. So if I go TME front, Eibach back, should I do no spacers, 5mm back only, 5mm front/10 mm back, or 10mm front/10mm back. What a pain this all is. Thanks Volvo for not finishing the job on this suspension. I assume I'll be okay (with no cargo and people in back) driving the car for a few days waiting for the spacers if I have to but I imagine if IPD ships me Eibach, I can have them ship spacers too. Then I'll have the frickin hassle of having to sell the TME backs and Eibach fronts. But if the TME backs have problems for all S60's, then no one would want to buy them anyway. I'll keep everyone posted what happens.<br>
Jazee,<br>I would drive it yourslf and then make up your mind.<br>A dealer always raises flags and since YOU haven't driven the car PERSONALLY, you should before making (possibly) unnecessary remarks.<br>Yes, they are close, but I have no noises so I would take a drive and see attitude BEFORE you and everyone continues the speculation,<br>it may be for naught. Drive the car several miles, let them settle and them see.(hear) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Personally my wagon sits PERFECTLY so don't hurry to put Eibachs on the rear they may not work out so well in combo with the TME fronts and may be LOWER
Then there's the issue with the rear 4C sensors possibly going out of range and having to jack the car up a little in the back to recalibrate. Of course then the headlights won't be aimed perfectly and you have to futz with the manual adjustment right? Trying to relay all this crap to the dealer, they're going to think I'm nuts. Maybe I should just go back to stock and forget the whole thing?<br>
Time is money. But I should go drive it and see if it is bareable at least until I can talk to IPD Monday. In my opinion, I should not have to put up with any additional noise at all as another poster also mentioned.<p>
My SUM was perfect and easy with no need for jacking.<br>Headlights came back to me the same way they left, perfectly adjusted<br>Relax, they may have just done it just right, (and they may not have). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>You will know after a few miles so relax until then
jazee just because some coils are touching isn't necessarily a manufacturing defect or an indication of improper fitment.<p>Some stiffening/lowering springs are designed with so-called "dead coils" designed to keep the spring in contact with the upper perch on full rebound. I also believe that this is called a progressive-rate spring. The dead coils should be on the bottom of the spring when under compression.<p>I would call Scott on Monday to confirm if this is by design and at least take a test drive before making a decision.