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<IMG SRC="http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2338/dsc043996ij.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2683/dsc043877oz.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1590/dsc043957dj.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4631/dsc043924ow.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7381/dsc044107zy.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Finally got to take some pics of the car. I love the look. It rides great and handles better than ever. My best mod yet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (Turbo Chad)

HOT>>>>HOT>>>HOT. And so will you (hot that is) if those springs start throwing codes like R kelly. I truly hope they don't. Nice look. Enjoy! Rick
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (Mash)

That's gorgeous! Did you just wax her?<p>Quite a garage btw <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (Turbo Chad)

Very nice! Could you post your alignment specs after the install? I'm particularly interested in the rear camber. Thanks!
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (Mash)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mash</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HOT>>>>HOT>>>HOT. And so will you (hot that is) if those springs start throwing codes like R kelly. I truly hope they don't. Nice look. Enjoy! Rick</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Springs ARE not throwing codes. My 4C system had many gremlins before I ever put springs in (see posts from last year). In fact, trying to calm the squirelly rear end at speeds above 120mph is main reason I did springs, in addition to the sweet look. <p>Nice wheels btw way Chad. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Car looks awesome (well, if big back ends are your thing)<p><IMG SRC="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_70.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Nice wheels btw way Chad. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Car looks awesome (well, if big back ends are your thing)<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hey hey hey, watch your tongue! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>JRL has had his springs in for quite a while with no codes. As Kelly said, he had problems before hand. <p>Chad, please give us a review of the ride and handling!
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (needsdecaf)

Aftermarket springs by themselves (installed correctly) cannot throw any codes.<br>Improper installation and by damaging a shock or a sensor sure can <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> Also not doing a SUM reboot after install eventually also can<br>R Kelly made the BIG MISTAKE of not having his 4C faults REPAIRED <B>BEFORE</B> he installed the springs. If he had, he would still be a happy camper<p>Turbo Chad, your wagon looks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (JRL)

What do I have to tell my service guy if I want them to do a SUM recalc? Just say, "I'd like a SUM recalc"? And, what should it cost? I'm still not sure if it was ever done even though I was under the impression it was being done.<p>-Eric
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (Sue Esponte)

When I had an alignment and 30k service recently I asked for a SUM recal.<p>The recalibration was covered as part of the alignment (which I paid for). There is no download just a local VADIS/VIDA routine.<p>Headlights! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> Hope they remember, my dealer <B>did</B>. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (mike_c70)

Camber- I didn't get a print out from the dealer, but one side is just"out of spec" according to the tech. He mentioned that the rear camber is not adjustable on the V70. I told him about the recommendation of other swedespeeders to loosen and retorque the rear subframe (not sure if he did this or not). There is some noticable camber but it is certainly not excessive as I have seen with other cars. I have PS2's and don't expect to get that great of milage out of them anyway, so I am not concerned. It looks great and handles even better.<p>Handling- The car is glued to the pavement. I also had the IPD rear sway put on and front end links at the same time. As others have stated it feels "settled down" tracks tighter and the steering is much crisper. I also put in powerflex bushings in my engine strut brace so some of this may be attributable to this, but the general feeling is that the car is just tighter, lower, and far more track worthy than before.<p>Comfort- I love the ride. I leave it in comfort or sport depending on the roads, just as I did before, it just feels better. I have the original sum program (sum 1?) and did not request an update. It is still harsh over sizable potholes but not anymore than any other performance car I have owned. I didn't have much side hop before, but I did have the dealer do the upgrade and now there is nothing at all, just one glued down wagon. Haven't had it on backroads yet, but I am looking forward to it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Car looks awesome (well, if big back ends are your thing)<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>"I like big butts and I can not lie<br>You other brothers can't deny<br>That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist<br>And a round thing in your face<br>You get sprung<br>Wanna pull up tough<br>Cuz you notice that butt was stuffed<br>Deep in the jeans she's wearing<br>I'm hooked and I can't stop staring" <p>Sir Mix Alot <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (Turbo Chad)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Turbo Chad</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I also had the IPD rear sway put on and front end links at the same time. As others have stated it feels "settled down" tracks tighter and the steering is much crisper. I also put in powerflex bushings in my engine strut brace so some of this may be attributable to this, but the general feeling is that the car is just tighter, lower, and far more track worthy than before.<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I also recently had the TME springs, 22mm rear sway, PowerFlex bushings installed. And the a upper engine stabilizer bushing. Umm, this as a package don't suck at all. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The PowerFlex bushings were a buy-it-and-try-it gamble since I was already ordering some heavy to ship items. It really does stiffen up the strut "brace" travel considerably and it's noticeable in the handling as well.<p>I doubted that the rear bar really had much effect on understeer. Until I took a usual on ramp at an aggressive speed/line. The result was dramatic. <p>Compared to the stock understeer, iPd's advertised "neutral" handling felt like oversteer. I'm only still just getting used to the more planted feel, the reduced body roll, improved steering feedback etc. but I <B>like</B> it!<p>Considered doing the front endlinks and didn't. Probably will when the stockers wear out though.
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (StaggRLee)

I HAVE noticed something interesting.<br>After I installed the Powerflex end bushings I noticed the difference big time. Now that they have been on for 3-4000 or so miles, I don't seem to notice it anymore.<br>These went in when it was still cold out (March). When I engaged the clutch first thing in the morning they were so stiff the clutch chattered, (only for the first couple of miles),<br>Now that it's hot out, no more, in fact it feels stock.<br>I wonder how much the heat has a play in this or the mileage is wearing them in a bit too much?<br>Also wonder if they should be retorqued <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> ?
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">R Kelly made the BIG MISTAKE of not having his 4C faults REPAIRED <B>BEFORE</B> he installed the springs. If he had, he would still be a happy camper</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Now hold on, I didn't have any codes when I installed the springs...<p>I did have a buggy 4C system that already had one magnetic sensor and an accelerometer replaced last year. I also still had squirelly handling above 120 mph (but no codes), why I did the springs, rear sway and rear bushing fix.<p>My mistake was not delaying the shipment of my car to the US in order to give my dealer in Germany time to order the parts and fix the problem. <p>I didn't even think about US dealers pulling this crap...especially since it was a Volvo dealer who installed them. <p>But enough thread bleed over, still a very sweet looking ride Chad.
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! ("R" Kelly)

That's what JRL is trying to say. You had the 4C bugs before you installed your springs which should've been address prior to cross atlantic shipment.
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (mike_c70)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mike_c70</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's what JRL is trying to say. You had the 4C bugs before you installed your springs which should've been address prior to cross atlantic shipment.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did have a buggy 4C system that already had one magnetic sensor and an accelerometer <B>replaced last year</B>. I also still had squirelly handling above 120 mph <B>(but no codes)</B>, why I did the springs, rear sway and rear bushing fix.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I addressed the 4C bugs last year when I the dealer fixed the problem by replacing a magnetic sensor and an accelerometer. <p>THERE WERE NO CODES OR ISSUES BEYOND NORMAL TAIL SQUIRREL when I installed my springs in the spring. My point was that my 4C system had similar problems last year, that developed (and were fixed) when the stock springs were on. <p>For all I know, it was the rear bushing fix that caused the 4C system to go bad... (doubtful, since it is the front left shock that is showing over voltage). <p>I think this is my favorite picture Chad..<p><IMG SRC="http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4631/dsc043924ow.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (StaggRLee)

Got my car back today as well. Put on the IPD TME springs/rear bar and engine mount bushings (the Viva performance strut and engine mount bushings are coming next week). Haven't done much with the car yet, but it is MUCH better handling. Comfort is no longer floating/rolling, and may be where I do most of my driving. Advanced remains a bit harsh, but seems more planted and responsive instead of just "hard" as before. The car is much flatter around corners, turn-in improved and dive/squat are almost completely gone.<p>One question/concern: The suspension seems a bit "jittery", mostly when in sport/advanced. When going over imperfections in the road I feel like the springs are not completely damped. I read in an earlier thread (forgetting who posted) that the springs seem to settle a little over the first couple of weeks. Has that been anyone's experience. I'm just wondering if the marked handling improvement the springs offer will be offset by this characteristic (or will I just get used to it). <p>If it is what I am to expect from the springs, my guess is the problem lies in the shocks (poor "rebound" control?). Thoughts/comments?
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (gmermel)

Yes, give them some time to "settle in" before forming final impressions. Mine had some teethiing days but feel great now in all 4C settings.
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also not doing a SUM reboot after install eventually also can<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>So should I get a reboot next time in, or do I need to do it ASAP? Also, memory serves that (aside from the lights being on) that I make it clear to do NO UPDATES, just the reboot, or my SUM rev would go to 4, correct?<p>Thanks
 

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Re: TME Springs- love-em! (gmermel)

There is a way to recalibrate and not update
 
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