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It seems like I developed a bubble in the sidewall of my tire. I hit a pothole that I didn't have time to react to. The tire is the 245/45/17 P6. Can someone describe what actually happened to the tire and is it safe to drive? Is this still covered under warranty?<P>thanks
 

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rmi63,<P>Welcome to Swedespeed! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>Unfortunatly, a bubble on the sidewall of a tire generally indicates damaged cords caused by a severe impact. It is confirmed by a visible corresponding break in the inner liner. This means that air has infiltrated between the plies and has caused the bulge. When a tire with damaged cords gets hot, it will experience a sudden loss of air. It is recommended that a tire with a bubble on the sidewall should be removed immediately. Usually, a tire in this damaged condition cannot be repaired. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/frown.gif"><P>-Drew<P>
 

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How new is the tire? It may be covered under the tire's warranty. You should check your owner's manual for info from the tire manufacturer and contact them.
 

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I forgot to mention that my car is the T5 with the 17 inch wheels. It only has 4700 miles on it. I guess I'll try and take it back to the dealer to see if they will replace it under warranty.
 

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Just FYI, your dealer may or may not handle it. You may have to contact the tire company. Check your warranty papers in with your owner's manual.
 

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I had exactly the same problem several weeks ago (at 1300 miles). Apparently my wife hit something in the road on the interstate, and caused a significant bulge on the front driver's side. I took the car to the dealer but they referred me to a tire shop (said it would be less expensive). Because the tire itself was not defective, it was not covered under the tire warranty but falls under a broad catagory called 'road hazard'. The tire shop was nice enough to exchange the tire at 50% cost, since it was so new, and then I put road hazard insurance on all the tires (incase something like this happens again, they will replace the tire for free). From what I understand, one the cords have been damaged it is quite dangerous and a blowout is likely. (Just driving the car 10 miles caused the bulge to grow significantly.)<P>
 

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FYI, I believe companies like NTB offer a warranty on tires they sell that includes road hazards. While some may view them as a waste of money, the day I was in having some tires mounted, I saw a guy making a claim on his Camaro where he'd parked in a field where construction had been and had nails in all four tires. He was having all four replaced. I was impressed.
 

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245/45 seems a little wide to me.<BR>Should be 235/45.<BR>Go with the Bridgestone S03 size 225/45-17 which is the size used in Europe.<BR>By far the best rubber for the S60.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Johann:<BR><B>245/45 seems a little wide to me.<BR>Should be 235/45. Go with the Bridgestone S03 size 225/45-17 which is the size used in Europe. By far the best rubber for the S60.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yeah, I was wondering about that too, because 245 seems a little too wide for the rim. Why is it that the S60 gets two different width tires? 235 & 225? I never understood that, because I have heard of owners complaining about rubbing with the 235's. I agree with the Bridgestone S03, I have never heard anything bad about them. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>-Drew<p>[This message has been edited by InDy (edited 03-04-2002).]
 

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The tires were 235s. Is it ok to replace only that one tire with a different brand tire? I don't see pirelli p6 on their web site for the U.S. market and I was wondering if I could just replace that one tire with a different brand?
 

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Replace the tire with the same brand that you have on the car right now. When it comes time to replace all 4 tires, then you can choose whatever brand you like. That would be a good idea.<P>Tirerack.com has the Pirelli P6 235/45/VR17 for $161 in stock. I am not sure what the dealer is selling them for.<P>-Drew
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by InDy:<BR><B> Yeah, I was wondering about that too, because 245 seems a little too wide for the rim. Why is it that the S60 gets two different width tires? 235 & 225? I never understood that, because I have heard of owners complaining about rubbing with the 235's. I agree with the Bridgestone S03, I have never heard anything bad about them. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>-Drew<P>[This message has been edited by InDy (edited 03-04-2002).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Drew,<P>different markets equip cars with different tires. FOr example, here in the US a 2.4T can come with either a 215 or 205 tire. S80 2.9s used to be the same way. In Greece, all 850 Turbos came with the "50" aspect ratio 16" tires and..."Z" rated, mind you, not all season! Every importer make their own decisions for the country's market.<P>Yannis<BR><P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rmi63:<BR><B>It seems like I developed a bubble in the sidewall of my tire. I hit a pothole that I didn't have time to react to. The tire is the 245/45/17 P6. Can someone describe what actually happened to the tire and is it safe to drive? Is this still covered under warranty?<P>thanks</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Let me start by saying if you have the means replace all of those tires at once. I lived in Puerto Rico and I went through my first P6 at 1200 miles Pirelli refuse to give me another so to the tire rack 151.00, so at 3700 mles I have another original P6 go bad same bubble problem so I call Pirelli headquaters in New Haven CT. They basicly told me that there was not way for them to inspect my tire since I was so far away, but in the same breath he tells me that they have several authorized dealer's in my area. So to Tire rack again 151.00! then at 7800 miles the third original tire went bad the same problem. So I drove my car to a local dealer and bought a set of Toyo's. They improved the ride, made the car handle better in the dry as well as the wet. The P6 should not be on the S60 the profile is to low for the strenght of the sidewall. The tire is is piece of crap and Pirelli will give you hell trying to replace them. If you want piece of mind move up to a ZR rated tire(P-Zero Rossa,SO-3(my Fav),Toyo T1-S, Nitto NT-555(price leader have a set on my car now) to improve sidewall endurance my friend. Please remember I an one an d my workd may not mean any thing, Im just letting you know what happen to my set of Pirelli P6 tires. Good Luck<P>
 

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Simply put, it is not Pirellis fault that you hit the pothole. Therefore it won't be covered under warrenty. I went through 2 new Michelins this way... my wife kept hitting curbs with her right front tire, all in the span of two weeks, I never got a chance to get he new tire to another location on the car.. BAM! another one. I guess it was my fault.. I kept telling her "this" is 8 inches..and her depth perception was off. <P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phil Pugliese:<BR><B>Simply put, it is not Pirellis fault that you hit the pothole. Therefore it won't be covered under warrenty. I went through 2 new Michelins this way... my wife kept hitting curbs with her right front tire, all in the span of two weeks, I never got a chance to get he new tire to another location on the car.. BAM! another one. I guess it was my fault.. I kept telling her "this" is 8 inches..and her depth perception was off. <P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I will not put the blame on Pirelli, I put it on Volvo for putting those garbage tires on the car from the gate. I have always had lowered and modified cars. all of my cars have been able to take a pothole every now and then. A pothole than damaged my P6 cause no harm to the rim. I was living in Puerto Rico not South Jersey. Pr doesnt have pothol;e big enough to cause a bubble in a good tire. Each of the orignal tire that came on the car all went bad. But I guess that was my fault. I dont think so! It the fault of Pirelli and Volvo for putting that garbage on my car. I know the tires are no good for my car, they be for yours<P>
 
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