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My 2000 XC timing belt popped off while literally coasting through Teton National Park. I did not hear any bang or clang from the engine. I just had no power when I put on the gas. I have been given 3 options: 1) put on a new belt, pulley and tensioner, and water pump and see if it runs okay; 2) have the head pulled, a valve job down, and the head re-milled for about $3500; 3) put in a rebuilt engine for about $4200.<p>Of course there is the do nothing option and part out the car or junk the car. Or try to get my insurance company to total it ( not likely though ).<p>Is it true the 9 out of 10 times the engine will be ruined when a belt breaks or slips? Do any of you see any other options or lower priced solutions? My car is in excellent condition inside and out other than the engine problem. <p>Doradokid
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (doradokid)

You did not mention your miles which would predicate an engine or not.<br>You should be able to get a valve job done for less if you shop around.<p>If you know your car and your engine and you think that it's in fine shape, keep that motor and do the valve job.<br>It's always possible that no damage was done, that's a slim chance, but possible, worth a shot I suppose.<p>If you decide to do the valve job and with the head off, now would be a good time to replace the PCV system, breather box, etc.<br>Not a lot of labor with easy access to it at this point<br>Also a good idea would be to replace the PNP switch at this time
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (JRL)

Thanks for information. The engine has 134k miles.
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (doradokid)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>doradokid</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for information. The engine has 134k miles. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, that's sort of betwen a rock and a hard place.<br>You can certainly find an engine with 1/2 the miles as long as it has a warranty, I would go for that (unless you're one of the lucky ones and it fires up after the new timing belt was installed).<p>If necessary, with those miles, I would find a lower mileage used engine.<br>(BTW, was your timing belt changed at 105K or earlier)?<br><A HREF="http://www.erievovo.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.erievovo.com</A> guarantees their engines
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (JRL)

I am going to try to put on a new timing belt, water pump, pulley, and tensioner myself, using the How To found on Matthews. If it doesn't work, then I have located a replacement head for $450 from Clear Water Cylinders.<p>I will also contact the engine replace company you recommended.<p>Thanks.<p>doradokid.
 

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timing belt snaps = engine toast . <p>or at least the head is toast. <p>cruising or not if the engine was running even idoiing its gone
 

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The belt did not snap. The tensioner failed and it went slack. But everyone tells me it is toast when the belt slips or breaks. So I will get a new head and put on a new water pump, pulley, tensioner and belt.<p>Thanks for your input.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Chilled Man</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <p>idoiing </TD></TR></TABLE><p>IDOIING????? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>and no, it's not idoling either
 

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idaling ? idoling ? idealing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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<br>Break the word down like I told you..<p>ID-L-ING or I-DL-ING<p><B>IDLING</B>
 

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<br>You can correct, or try to, others spelling. But maybe you should just work on your demeanor on this forum and others. Once that is adjusted and corrected, you can work on diction and grammar and spelling.<p>I would rather see a misspelled word of two, than off color comments from the peanut gallery.
 

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LOL its an ongoing thing with me and JRL . <p>And acutally I dont mind it , any help I get in the spelling department is always helpfull <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Plus hes a cool guy in person also <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Also for rebuilt heads... <p>Clearwater Cylinder Heads . <br>ask for steve <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (doradokid)

Had the same problem with my 98R,tensioner gave out and the belt migrated off the sprockets.The head was instant toast. If it's not too late,do a compression check of each cylinder by rotating the crank by hand to see if it is worth prolonging the inevitable. I purchased a rebulit head and paid for dealer labor. Do the lower front mount along with the water pump and a new acessory belt. Ouch !!
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (Saffron R)

I've heard of the rule, "Third timing belt needs a new tensioner."
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (sony2000)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sony2000</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard of the rule, "Third timing belt needs a new tensioner."</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That would be 315K for me! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>This might have been reasonable if the change interval was still 50-60K.<br>On a '98, it is 70K. In '99, it goes to 105K. As my mechanic said, if I didn't replace it at the 105K change, the odds of tensioner failure before 210K is pretty high. High enough to throw in a relatively cheap part.
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (sony2000)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sony2000</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard of the rule, "Third timing belt needs a new tensioner."</TD></TR></TABLE><p>New belt, new tensioner<p>ALWAYS<p>That alternate is a water pump with every other belt, NOT the tensioner
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>New belt, new tensioner<p>ALWAYS<p>That alternate is a water pump with every other belt, NOT the tensioner</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed everything gets changed every timing belt minus the waterpump.
 

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Re: Timing Belt Tensioner Failure, can engine be saved? (Chilled Man)

I just had my timing belt done - change number 4 if anyone's keeping score LOL. Volvo's SOP for this also includes the idler pulley. Probably not always necessary but at $95 it's not a big expense.<p>Turned out that my water pump was starting to leak out the weep hole, so it was time for it to be changed as well - only had 90K on it, which, to me, anyway, seems surprisingly early for it to leak. I wonder if I could even have gotten the full 105K out of the water pump had I not been due for the timing belt service.<p>Next timing belt at 525K - I can hardly wait <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> .
 

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LOL George way to go <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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