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Those wonderful gripping Brembo brakes and sticky Pirelli's. I'm so used to stopping on a dime but have to remind myself occasionally that not everyone can do that. As my car is the passion red with sport body kit and I live in a small town where the police are always watching me, when a signal light turns yellow, I STOP.<p>Well I stopped at a light yesterday that the 18-wheeler behind me had already decided he was going to go through. I saw he wasn't going to be able to stop so I put it back in first and inched forward, ready to punch it and take a hard right turn out of his way. Fortunately, he pulled off to the left and stuck himself halfway into the intersection.<p>So be careful out there with those brakes.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (vLGrok)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>vLGrok</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those wonderful gripping Brembo brakes and sticky Pirelli's. I'm so used to stopping on a dime but have to remind myself occasionally that not everyone can do that. As my car is the passion red with sport body kit and I live in a small town where the police are always watching me, when a signal light turns yellow, I STOP.<p>Well I stopped at a light yesterday that the 18-wheeler behind me had already decided he was going to go through. I saw he wasn't going to be able to stop so I put it back in first and inched forward, ready to punch it and take a hard right turn out of his way. Fortunately, he pulled off to the left and stuck himself halfway into the intersection.<p>So be careful out there with those brakes.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Damn. Good job keeping an eye on your mirror and thankfully you didn't get whapped.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (needsdecaf)

They are great unless you are going slightly uphill and they decide to quit working during braking. <p>This happens to me often enough where I have to think about it when I am going anywhere uphill.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (vLGrok)

Yes, good awareness. The same thing applies to us following motorcycles. I hate seeing people tailgating, especially when they tailgate bikes. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (vLGrok)

I came up behind this guy who was going realy slow in the fast lane and scared my passengers a little I think. I knew I had plenty of room to stop and was wondering what the big deal was. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (frankhoffy)

Same here, it seems. Went to visit my 65-year old mom and driving her around, upon return to the house she said "your driving scares me, you get so close to all the other cars". I couldn't think of a single instance that afternoon where I had any cause for alarm, but if she's used to the brakes on her Nissan Sentra, I suppose every time we braked she must have been afraid we had no room to stop.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (steamboatsig)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>steamboatsig</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are great unless you are going slightly uphill and they decide to quit working during braking. <p>This happens to me often enough where I have to think about it when I am going anywhere uphill.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Huh? Your brakes don't work on hills? My office is on very hilly downtown Seattle. No problems stopping going up or downhill.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (I Roll)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>I Roll</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, good awareness. The same thing applies to us following motorcycles. I hate seeing people tailgating, especially when they tailgate bikes. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>yeah...no s**t <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (flybynight)

Not sure what the problem with my brakes are, but several others have experienced it. For example coming off the freeway and exiting uphill. Braking normally then a slight clunk and I have to literally use both feet to get it to stop. If I pump it, then it goes back to normal. Someone else had suggested that it might have to do with a big electrical transformer on the side of the road on his exit that is interfering with the signal, but it happens all over the place for me.<p>No, I haven't brought it to the dealer yet.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (steamboatsig)

Appears to be a US thing. I was exploring VADIS to help out DE V70R with some part numbers, turns out the US versions use some sort of pump in the brake system which isn't present on the Euro models.<p>About brake force, watch out for emergency brake assist.. Happened to me during the trip to the Ring last weekend. If throttle is lifted and brake applied in a certain timeframe or with a certain attitude the electronics this an emergency situation is in play so it will brake hard for you. even when the brake pedal is lifted again.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (Johann)

It is definetely not the emergency assist. I have experienced that! Wow I almost hit my head on my steering wheel. <p>It is the opposite of emergency assist, like emergency un-assist. Lol.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (Johann)

Oh, in regards to emergency assist. What if you do left foot braking? Will this trigger emergency assist? I wonder if pedal pressure is calculated as well.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (vLGrok)

What really makes the R brakes dangerous is when you drive another car . I have had a few close calls with my company car, expecting to stop like the R but skid like a Stratus.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (steamboatsig)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>steamboatsig</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are great unless you are going slightly uphill and they decide to quit working during braking. <p>This happens to me often enough where I have to think about it when I am going anywhere uphill.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's happened to me a few times too. Gotta think quick and release the brakes and apply them again. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (RhaRdeR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RhaRdeR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What really makes the R brakes dangerous is when you drive another car . I have had a few close calls with my company car, expecting to stop like the R but skid like a Stratus.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I had this problem with rental cars, especially when the road is at all wet. It would be drizzling slightly, and I'd hit the brakes to enter my complex just as I normally do... And embarrassingly find myself skidding right past the entrance and down the street.<p>(Slight downslope, slightly damp road surface, crappy rental car tires, and even crappier rental car brakes = very bad combination)
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (partridge)

I wish my R brakes would have worked just a bit better this evening......though they did a great job on an uneven road surface. Unfortunately, the Suzuki Esteem's brakes weren't as good as it hit my driver wheel/fender/fascia area. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Off to fight it out with the insurance company tomorrow. Oh boy oh boy.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by MagoonR at 10:40 PM 4-18-2006</i>
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (steamboatsig)

ConRad...I have had this happen maybe 5 times in 2.5 years with the R (seeming loss of braking power on uphill stops....feeling like all of a sudden there was ice on the rotors) On the last three occasions, I happened to notice it had to do with the EXACT moment the yellow light turned red...it's almost as if a pulse from the signal box that controls the traffic light sends the braking system into a brief spazm. Unnerving, but good luck trying to duplicate it for the service department.
 

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for all brake loss people, should all of us file reports to volvo? i only had the uphill brake loss problem twice last summer and the temperture was around 30 Celsius. however, the service department couldn't read any faulty code from the obd2.<p>for those who think riding a bike is dangerous, try riding a 49cc scooter. i had problem keeping up with the traffic with this powerless $hit and almost got tailgated each time i ride with it...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>icebiker</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but good luck trying to duplicate it for the service department. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is why I haven't brought it in. What should we do? Does Volvo know that this issue exists?<p>Oh, and BTW, my buddy's 2006 M5 is back in the shop AGAIN. Engine failure light came on. The first 15 days he had the car it was in the shop. A week later, it was back in the shop after a oil line failure sprayed oil all over the engine bay. M5 was flat bed towed to the shop.
 

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Re: Those wonderfully dangerous R brakes (steamboatsig)

do you realy left foot brake alot?? I have tried it a few times at the limit of adhesion in light understeer situations to regain traction and I have discovered that it is highly inpractical since as soon as you aply force on the brake pedal at the same time as you press the gas ever so lightly, the brake pedal is rock hard... I'm guessing this is caused by some sort of vacum, since you can't use the brakes without Intake manifold positive pressure... any imput anyone??
 
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