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I'm about to buy my first 850, maybe. What do you think?<p> 1995 Turbo SEDAN 4 DR 2.3L 222hp (code 57)<p>Good body, no rust. No accidents. Clean title. Only 115,000miles!<p>Appears to have been well maintained but needs CV boots, serpintine belt. Coolant leaking at front right side of engine, (can't see where yet). There may be a coolant leak by the turbo.<br>Passenger window is stuck. <p>Asking $2000. car fax looks good.<p>Is this a reasonable deal?<p><br>Any special considerations I should know before buying a 850? This would be my first. (I have had several 240's).<p>Thanks in advance!<p><br><i>Modified by guidowitz at 8:48 PM 6-2-2009</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by guidowitz at 5:35 PM 6-4-2009</i>
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (guidowitz)

I guess then that this vehicle has the Variant 2: 2.4L inline 5 turbo, 190 SAE net hp, 197 SAE net ft./lbs. ??<BR><BR>
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It's very cheap if all it needs is about $1000 worth of work
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's very cheap if all it needs is about $1000 worth of work</TD></TR></TABLE><p>OK, thanks. I have decided to purchase this car!<p>I'm still a little bit at a loss as to the engine , but suspect it is the least powerful turbo (varient 2) that was produced for the 1995 850?
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (guidowitz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>guidowitz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess then that this vehicle has the Variant 2: 2.4L inline 5 turbo, 190 SAE net hp, 197 SAE net ft./lbs. ??<p><br><i>Modified by guidowitz at 8:47 PM 6-2-2009</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Anybody know? Did some 1995 turbos come with the variant 3 engines?
 

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Me thinks it has no turbo.<p>I'm wondering what is causing the window to be "stuck".<p>Since you have the car, best to dive right in.<br>However, I'd have offered $1600.<p>But that is in hindsight, after paying $2750 for my Turbo three years ago.
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (guidowitz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>guidowitz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess then that this vehicle has the Variant 2: 2.4L inline 5 turbo, 190 SAE net hp, 197 SAE net ft./lbs. ??<p>]</TD></TR></TABLE><br>If it's a turbo and not a T5R, yep! (That's the only other choice)<br>What's this variant crapola?<br>There is a base non turbo engine, the LPT turbo engine and the the R engine, period
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>What's this variant crapola?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=119924" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=119924</A>
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (JRL)

I thought the LPT became available in '97? B4 then only NA and real turbo. Or so I recall.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>guidowitz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=119924" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=119924</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Well, normal people dont use that term, it's more like,<br>Question: "what engine do you have"<br>Answer: "I have a...(fill in the blank) not, <I>I have engine VARIENT number.......blah blah, etc.</I><br>If you look around <B>any</B> Volvo board you will <B>NOT </B>see that term used
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Well, normal people dont use that term, it's more like,<br>Question: "what engine do you have"<br>Answer: "I have a...(fill in the blank) not, <I>I have engine VARIENT number.......blah blah, etc.</I><br>If you look around <B>any</B> Volvo board you will <B>NOT </B>see that term used</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I rest my case!<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=14333" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=14333</A>
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's very cheap if all it needs is about $1000 worth of work</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What would be your first mod? IPD swaybars? Brake upgrade?<p>Is there any turbo stage kits you would recommend for the 2.3 222hp engine ? (code 57).
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>guidowitz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>What would be your first mod? IPD swaybars? Brake upgrade?<p>Is there any turbo stage kits you would recommend for the 2.3 222hp engine ? (code 57).</TD></TR></TABLE><p><B>1st thing you do is a stage 0</B> (do search), that will take some of your money away, after that come back and ask again! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>SWAY BARS is THE best upgrade you can do.<br>Why would you do a brake upgrade, your brakes should be fine for that car!<br>Just chip it and do an exhaust, it will run fine, 255hp or so (and safe for the engine)
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><B>1st thing you do is a stage 0</B> (do search), that will take some of your money away, after that come back and ask again! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>SWAY BARS is THE best upgrade you can do.<br>Why would you do a brake upgrade, your brakes should be fine for that car!<br>Just chip it and do an exhaust, it will run fine, 255hp or so (and safe for the engine)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks. I Copy, stock brakes more than adequate. Searching stage 0...
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (guidowitz)

<A HREF="http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/2009/04/15/what-is-stage-0" TARGET="_blank">http://www.matthewsvolvosite.c...age-0</A>/
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (JRL)

Fantastic info page! You are the man!
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (guidowitz)

As I said, you will be spending money on this first.<br>If after you get to stage 0 the car feel great, THEN talk about mods.<br>(Don't forget about the PCV breather box, at 90-100K it's time to replace it or look forward to poor running and some expensive oil leaks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> )
 

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Re: Thinking of buying my first 1995 850 Turbo- Is this a good deal? (JRL)

Good advice! I just reviewed the tech article for the breather box on mathews site and will be digging into this right away. Any advice on what parts to get? There are several options on grottons site. Thanks again!
 

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ALL of them.<br>The box, all the hoses and nipples<br>PIA job you need to remove the manifold
 
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