[Zahra]

I had cars (and still have one) for about 50 years with manual transmissions, the XC90 is my first automatic.
I don't find anything counterintuitive about the way the XC90 shifts in manual mode,
at least not more or less than if it were to shift up when moving the stick backward.
With a manual transmission, the gears are selected by moving the stick in a letter "H" shape,
so for some shifts up the stick has to be moved backward, for the next gear up backward.
That sounds (but in reality isn't) more confusing to me than the way the XC90 shifts.
Having 2 auto's that shift differently could be confusing, but does that mean that one of
them is right and the other is wrong?

 

[Stickygreen]

I guess it’s that since the automatic shifter stays on the same vertical plane (like 3rd & 4th in my Cadillac/trucks and 2nd & 3rd in my dogleg trans bmw) it’s a little more difficult for my brain to adapt to the opposite. I didn’t have any trouble getting used to my wife’s previous cx5 shifter, which was forward to downshift and back to upshift.

It’s not really a big deal either way, since the Volvo is much more conducive to relaxed driving than aggressive cornering. Just the few times I’ve tried to have a little fun in the mountains, I found the shifter to be a bit irritating. It’s also the only automatic car I’ve ever driven (used to sell range rovers, bmw’s, and MB’s) that had the manual shifting arranged this way.

 

[user.name]

Was just thinking that your other car must be a Tesla!

No, it's not. My wish list for a Tesla is much longer than that for Volvo, starting from adaptive headlights to that foot operated tailgate, not to mention some quality issues. But I love the electric drivetrain and I use our e-Golf daily.

[keyfob…] anyone can swap out to a leather/wood shell via Volvo accessories […]

Exactly, and I highly recommend this.

 

[cmyachtie]

Because when you make ergonomic studies on an average population, 80 % of people prefer that way (pushing forward to speed up, pulling backwards to speed down)
The 20% remaining are the ones like you and me who dreamt of rally cars in the 90's where acceleration is high enough to help the hand movement

After driving my BMW for 10 yrs with the ZF steptronic tranny, am glad they never heard of the above study (or in their infinite wisdom choose to ignore it), but now for the last 6 weeks or so with my new to me '17 XC90 feels TOTALLY unergonomic to me......and am unable to use the manual shift feature.
Talk about messing with my head.....lol

The other thing I am disappointed over is that the xc90 tranny doesn't appear to have an automatic shift override in the stick shift mode like the BMW has!

 

[Delmarva]

After driving my BMW for 10 yrs with the ZF steptronic tranny, am glad they never heard of the above study (or in their infinite wisdom choose to ignore it), but now for the last 6 weeks or so with my new to me '17 XC90 feels TOTALLY unergonomic to me......and am unable to use the manual shift feature.
Talk about messing with my head.....lol

The other thing I am disappointed over is that the xc90 tranny doesn't appear to have an automatic shift override in the stick shift mode like the BMW has!

My BMW328i and Volvo XC90 can both be shifted manually. My experience with both is that they choose gears so well is that manual shifting is really only needed on some long downhills. A lot of work went into the programming because there is no hunting, overshooting or choosing the wrong gear. Once in a while I do step through the gears to enjoy a bit of the thrill that comes from shifting a real manual trans. It's a vanishing joy.

 

[GlobalServices]

I did not read all 10 pages of replies, I apologize if mentioned already. POWER TILT AND TELESCOPE STEERING WHEEL! Also should be tied to memory. Not to mention the convenience where the wheel moves in and up when the engine is off to make getting in and out easier.

I do not think any Volvo has this, and it is just strange.

 

[adaone]

I did not read all 10 pages of replies, I apologize if mentioned already. POWER TILT AND TELESCOPE STEERING WHEEL! Also should be tied to memory. Not to mention the convenience where the wheel moves in and up when the engine is off to make getting in and out easier.

I do not think any Volvo has this, and it is just strange.

This will be making an appearance in SPA2, just a matter of waiting until then

 

[Magnus Cars]

I did not read all 10 pages of replies, I apologize if mentioned already. POWER TILT AND TELESCOPE STEERING WHEEL! Also should be tied to memory. Not to mention the convenience where the wheel moves in and up when the engine is off to make getting in and out easier.

I do not think any Volvo has this, and it is just strange.

Because in an accident where power is cut you could get stuck if the vehicle is crumpled enough. It is not a safe feature to have.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[GlobalServices]

Because in an accident where power is cut you could get stuck if the vehicle is crumpled enough. It is not a safe feature to have.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's a good point. I never thought about that!!!

 

[cmyachtie]

And then there’s the 20 mins of
residual heating of the cabin which is what I really miss now we’re in winter, after several 5 series, that’s what this XC90 definitely should also have as standard!
It keeps the cabin warm when waiting in car or keeps cabin warm when you’re just running into a store to get something, saves tons of gas to prevent ppl from idling cars unnecessarily....

 

[Surströmming]

And then there’s the 20 mins of
residual heating of the cabin which is what I really miss now we’re in winter, after several 5 series, that’s what this XC90 definitely should also have as standard!
It keeps the cabin warm when waiting in car or keeps cabin warm when you’re just running into a store to get something, saves tons of gas to prevent ppl from idling cars unnecessarily....

Look up “Climate comfort retaining function” in your manual.

 

[cmyachtie]

I did not read all 10 pages of replies, I apologize if mentioned already. POWER TILT AND TELESCOPE STEERING WHEEL! Also should be tied to memory. Not to mention the convenience where the wheel moves in and up when the engine is off to make getting in and out easier.

I do not think any Volvo has this, and it is just strange.

+1 my 1998 528i had this functionality and so had my 2004 545i, soooo if it’s finally coming in Volvo, it’s about time

 

[cmyachtie]

Look up “Climate comfort retaining function” in your manual.

Is that an extra option available for Inscription or part of Inscription?
If I recall correctly it was std on both my 1998 and 2005 5 series, not sure if the 3 series had it as well.

 

[cmyachtie]

Because in an accident where power is cut you could get stuck if the vehicle is crumpled enough. It is not a safe feature to have.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This doesn’t make sense......the manual tilt could also get me stuck if things get crumpled enough, don’t you think?

 

[Surströmming]

Is that an extra option available for Inscription or part of Inscription?
If I recall correctly it was std on both my 1998 and 2005 5 series, not sure if the 3 series had it as well.

It’s certainly not an extra option. I don’t believe it is unique to Inscription models. In the climate control page in the Sensus display, there should be a tab for parking climate, and within that page a “keep climate comfort” button. It will run the fan to bring residual engine heat into the cabin. It shuts off when you lock the doors from the remote so as to not waste engine heat when the car is unoccupied (it is very inefficient to cool the engine down and then heat it up again).

 

[Surströmming]

This doesn’t make sense......the manual tilt could also get me stuck if things get crumpled enough, don’t you think?

It is much more likely to have an electrical failure or motor failure that prevents the wheel from moving than to have the manual mechanism jammed.

 

[VolvoUhu]

It’s certainly not an extra option. I don’t believe it is unique to Inscription models. In the climate control page in the Sensus display, there should be a tab for parking climate, and within that page a “keep climate comfort” button. It will run the fan to bring residual engine heat into the cabin. It shuts off when you lock the doors from the remote so as to not waste engine heat when the car is unoccupied (it is very inefficient to cool the engine down and then heat it up again).

It's easier to complain than to spend time learning about the expensive car you purchased in the thread about "Things I can't believe my $85k vehicle doesn't have..." and not knowing it already has it.

Is that an extra option available for Inscription or part of Inscription?
If I recall correctly it was std on both my 1998 and 2005 5 series, not sure if the 3 series had it as well.

It really is in the manual and it's not labeled as being unique to some vehicles.

 

[VolvoUhu]

It is much more likely to have an electrical failure or motor failure that prevents the wheel from moving than to have the manual mechanism jammed.

I've heard the sales manager at our dealership mention is as well as Volvo reps. It is the reason Volvo's not included automatic or electric telescoping and tilt function. The last time I heard it by a product manager at Volvo's Customer Experience Center a tour.

 

[Mr.phil2u]

Remote start should never be on the Fob imo for safety reasons. People are killed when cars are accidentally started in garages.
x

 

[Magnus Cars]

It is much more likely to have an electrical failure or motor failure that prevents the wheel from moving than to have the manual mechanism jammed.

Couldn't have said it better myself.