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I would like to know about the next-generation Volvo’s so much, waiting is so painful. I have so many questions:

1.) Will they be front or rear-wheel drive? If front-wheel, will they maintain the rear-wheel drive proportions like the current generation?

2.) Will they offer soft-close doors and or ventilated/cooled rear seats? Extendable sun visors?

3.) What type of engine and will it only be mild hybrid or hybrid alongside it?

4.) Will the exterior design be as stunning as the current?

5.) What other features or luxury amenities will be included?

6.) How will the safety cage change? Because they already added a huge percentage of boron steel to the current. The entire safety cage surrounded. How will the structure be optimised in the new?

It hurts waiting. Not to sound like a first world problem. I’m just so excited and it’s hard to wait for information. I really hope we will hear or see something this year, even at the end.
 

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XC100 is the way to go if you want soft close doors and more luxury stuff.

Power train is pretty much mild hybrid, PHEV, and pure BEV, in different horsepower setup. They are not going to design new ICE engines anyways.

I think safe cage would be no change as it works well.

LiDAR and L4 highway pilot will allow you to take a nap on long trip.

I am also wondering if autonomous parking (eg. L4 in parking lot and garage) will be offered, as Geely will showcase it on an entry SUV this year, maybe next month.

And Android Sensus, google service, of course. Screen probably will get bigger, 10inch for example. And I hope there is a screen for passenger, or some kind of Bluetooh control for media and climate.

Waiting is helpful to find out all details. Since late 2015 I have been waiting for every new model and settled with XC60 T8. Worthwhile for the learning.

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Power train is pretty much mild hybrid, PHEV, and pure BEV, in different horsepower setup.
Do you think SC factory will push out PHEV T6 along w/ T8? Same powertrain, just "tweaks" to ICE.

And oh, how about return to amber turn signals? There's a certain Euro-elegance to them, and the whole safety thing too. Even the bloody minivan has amber turn signals. Sheesh.
 

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Do you think SC factory will push out PHEV T6 along w/ T8? Same powertrain, just "tweaks" to ICE.

And oh, how about return to amber turn signals? There's a certain Euro-elegance to them, and the whole safety thing too. Even the bloody minivan has amber turn signals. Sheesh.
The SC factory may build it but it is up to VCUSA to decide to sell in USA. Since they don't want V60 PHEV T6, I don't think they want to sell XC90 T6 PHEV here. The reason is simple, to sell more higher price T8.

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The SC factory may build it but it is up to VCUSA to decide to sell in USA. Since they don't want V60 PHEV T6, I don't think they want to sell XC90 T6 PHEV here. The reason is simple, to sell more higher price T8.

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Yeah I saw the quote that basically said so when T6 PHEV was a no-go for USA. Still, if the goal is to go all-in PHEV + EV, I'd bet T6 PHEV would help drive volume.

Not a deal-killer for future shopping, but we really don't need 400 hp...
 

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XC100 is the way to go if you want soft close doors and more luxury stuff.
Assuming you can trust the clues in that EV plan image that was released recently, XC100 had a notably different hoodline compared to the others - kind of reminded me of the minivan.

Could it be some kind of genetic cross between XC90 and VW ID Buzz?
 

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Assuming you can trust the clues in that EV plan image that was released recently, XC100 had a notably different hoodline compared to the others - kind of reminded me of the minivan.

Could it be some kind of genetic cross between XC90 and VW ID Buzz?
Don't know anything about XC100 but I believe they want to be more luxury than today, especially for Asian market where the simplicity of Scandinavian is cool but also not warmly welcomed compared to more decorated luxury interior styles from other manufacturers there.
 

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Like everywhere else, SC factory is slowed down for covid and also IC chip shortage. MY2022 XC90 was the orignal plan and could be out end of year. But I am not surprised for 6months or more delay of new SPA2 model.
 

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XC100 is the way to go if you want soft close doors and more luxury stuff.

Power train is pretty much mild hybrid, PHEV, and pure BEV, in different horsepower setup. They are not going to design new ICE engines anyways.

I think safe cage would be no change as it works well.

LiDAR and L4 highway pilot will allow you to take a nap on long trip.

I am also wondering if autonomous parking (eg. L4 in parking lot and garage) will be offered, as Geely will showcase it on an entry SUV this year, maybe next month.

And Android Sensus, google service, of course. Screen probably will get bigger, 10inch for example. And I hope there is a screen for passenger, or some kind of Bluetooh control for media and climate.

Waiting is helpful to find out all details. Since late 2015 I have been waiting for every new model and settled with XC60 T8. Worthwhile for the learning.

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I interpret the next-generation XC90, S90 and V90 should come with soft-close as an option. Because Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi, Jaguar, Genesis, Lincoln, Maserati, Cadillac and Lexus all offer it on some of their models (with the first five offering it on all the competitive models). If Volvo wants to add a new feature, this is one of them. And if they truly want to be a luxury competitor, this is necessary as an option.

Will the design and even safety cage and other features really only be evolutionary? My interpretation is it’s an all new generation? I would expect big changes similar to the transition of the first generations. Does that mean we should expect the same engines as the current, with mild upgrades? And does that indicate the design will remain similar? I would be happy if the design is evolutionary, as they already look almost perfect.
 

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I interpret the next-generation XC90, S90 and V90 should come with soft-close as an option. Because Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi, Jaguar, Genesis, Lincoln, Maserati, Cadillac and Lexus all offer it on some of their models (with the first five offering it on all the competitive models). If Volvo wants to add a new feature, this is one of them. And if they truly want to be a luxury competitor, this is necessary as an option.

Will the design and even safety cage and other features really only be evolutionary? My interpretation is it’s an all new generation? I would expect big changes similar to the transition of the first generations. Does that mean we should expect the same engines as the current, with mild upgrades? And does that indicate the design will remain similar? I would be happy if the design is evolutionary, as they already look almost perfect.
There is hope for bigger change, especially more cars will be BEV model. Instrument cluster and center console can be simplified more. Body shape cries to be more streamlined. But they are not interested in renovate mild hybrid powertrain for sure.

For SPA generation, the R&D time spanned from 2012 to 2015 at least. They probably didn't spend so much time on SPA2. I don't expect a total redesign.
 

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Nope. Didn't realize they were changing the nomenclature yet. But I usually find stuff like that out after it happens because it doesn't mean much to us in service.
 

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Nope. Didn't realize they were changing the nomenclature yet. But I usually find stuff like that out after it happens because it doesn't mean much to us in service.
They are not changing it. It is T8 PHEV on XC90 Recharge, and T6 PHEV on V90/V60 Recharge in Europe.
Apparently VCUSA only want T8 PHEV for V90/V60 Recharge, not the T6 PHEV version.
Does it save servicing cost at all? Nope, right?


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I don't know how the nomenclature works in Europe. In the US, the T5 is turbocharged, T6 turbocharged and supercharged and T8 is turbocharged, supercharged and hybrid.

On the US site, using an S90, it appears to still be that way.
 

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I’m curious whether Volvo will release any information this year, or wait until next year? I would interpret the next-generation XC90 would be released early next year, rather than later. I’m also curious how close the next S90 will be, as there was only about a years difference of the current being revealed, after the current XC90.
 

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Apparently T6 vs. T8 PHEV is same twin charged + hybrid powertrain. They just tweak the engine a bit. We really won't need 400 hp when the time comes, would gladly trade a bit of output for more efficiency or hybrid range. I think EV range is the same in XC60, makes sense.

Thinking if SPA2 XC90 was launching this CY, we'd know it by now. Perhaps more likely that we'll see reveal late this year/winter 2022, then launch in spring-summer 2022 as MY23?
 
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