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<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waj2KrKYTZo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjalopnik%2Ecom%2F5327580%2Fvideo%2Dhow%2Dto%2Ddisable%2Da%2Dcash%2Dfor%2Dclunkers%2Dcar&feature=player_embedded" TARGET="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...edded</A> <p>Also, how does a program that involves destroying engines to the point where the engine compartment catches on fire good for the environment?
 

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Re: The sad death of a "clunker" S80 ([email protected])

Try that link again <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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LOL how does a S80 even get there ? <p>since most of those POS trannys kick the bucket long time before the rest of the car dies .
 

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Boy, that seemed like a waste.<p>What were they doing to it anyway? WOT and run the starter while it's already running???
 

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Re: The sad death of a "clunker" S80 ([email protected])

Is this for real? Part of the cash for clunkers requires all "clunkers" turned in to have their engines destroyed in such an environmentally unfriendly and completely igonorant fashion? So, the goal of this proram is to boost car sales at the cost of the environment by completely wasting cars that could have continued running for many years?? Is our government serious???
 

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Re: The sad death of a "clunker" S80 (swimmer240)

Whether or not the video has any veracity, the idea that 2009 vehicles are, for the most part, particularly more fuel efficient or less polluting than 1990s vehicles is pretty silly. There was a huge difference between 1960s cars and 1970s cars, and between 1970s and 1980s cars... and even between the 1980s and 1990s. But there is no real difference in efficiency between 1999 and 2009 editions of most cars.<p>I would suspect that my 2004 S60 gets better mileage than an XC60 on the market right now... and I would also suspect that my 2000 Toyota does as well as its current counterpart, which now has variable valve timing (which would increase efficiency), but also a larger-bore engine and a larger, heavier chassis (which decreases it). Also, in Ontario we have a "drive clean" program where vehicles over 4 years old are emissions tested each year... both of these cars come in WAY under the limits for their classes each year.
 

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Re: The sad death of a "clunker" S80 (CaptainBeowulf)

Heck, my 92 240 wagon has been averaging 30-32mpg (mostly highway) According to most EPA estimates (which I understand are not solid indications of true mileage) my 17 year old car gets as good if not better fuel economy than most cars of similiar size and smaller in some cases. HOw would me turning in my 240 for, say, a for fusion, which gets 26-28mpg be any good?
 

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Re: The sad death of a "clunker" S80 (swimmer240)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>swimmer240</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heck, my 92 240 wagon has been averaging 30-32mpg (mostly highway) According to most EPA estimates (which I understand are not solid indications of true mileage) my 17 year old car gets as good if not better fuel economy than most cars of similiar size and smaller in some cases. HOw would me turning in my 240 for, say, a for fusion, which gets 26-28mpg be any good?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Who is encouraging you to turn in your 240 for a Fusion?<p>Your 240 doesn't even qualify for the CARS program which requires a maximum of 18 mpg. Furthermore, the replacement car has to be at least 4 mpg better to qualify, and the full rebate only applies if the car is at least 10 mpg better.<p>By the way, the EPA combined estimate (the figure used by CARS) for a 1992 240 automatic is 20 mpg. The 6-cyl Fusion is 21 mpg and the 4-cyl is 23 mpg. <br>
 

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Re: The sad death of a "clunker" S80 (Calhon)

No one is encouraging me, and I'm not even considering it. I was unaware that there was a fuel mpg maximum, I just thought you could turn in an older car and get a newer one, I was misinformed. And my 240 has a manual transmission, not an auto, and it has never gotten less than 25 mpg, just for informational purposes.
 
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