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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's Sepang Circuit - starts 04-03-09 (thesternowl)

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Round 2 of the 2009 FIA Formula 1 World Championship

http://www.formula1.com/news/h....html

They're calling for stormy weather all weekend long...


Ooooo, can't wait.
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (850arrrsaylikepirate)

I hate wet races
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (gdill2)

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Hamilton if it rains.

George Dill

Yeah, if he's steals Jenson's overalls.
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (850arrrsaylikepirate)

Hmmm...

Raikkonen and Massa look pretty quick...
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (thesternowl)

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Hmmm...

Raikkonen and Massa look pretty quick...

They do, they do. Come qualifying we will see for sure. If it rains it could be a crap shoot...
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (gdill2)

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Hamilton if it rains.

George Dill

LOL, MASSA if it rains. Hamilton isn't by any measure, the best wet weather driver on the grid. He had one of the best packages last season, and arguably, the one before as well. This season is different. There are several cars equal to or superior to the Macca in outright pace. Now, if he goes on to beat the field in a commanding way, in this year's Macca, knowing the diffuser teams will have much better grip in the wet, I will retract my statement regarding his wet-weather talents, and keep the door open to him possibly being the best wet weather driver.
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (850arrrsaylikepirate)

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Yeah, if he's steals Jenson's overalls.

Psshhh, another MacLaren hater.


He is the best wet driver, period.

And we know who the worst is.
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (JoeLvo)

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LOL, MASSA if it rains. Hamilton isn't by any measure, the best wet weather driver on the grid. He had one of the best packages last season, and arguably, the one before as well. This season is different. There are several cars equal to or superior to the Macca in outright pace. Now, if he goes on to beat the field in a commanding way, in this year's Macca, knowing the diffuser teams will have much better grip in the wet, I will retract my statement regarding his wet-weather talents, and keep the door open to him possibly being the best wet weather driver.

Yeah, because he did so well at Silverstone last year.


Sorry, Lewis is much better. It's not the car.
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (Needsdecaf)

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Psshhh, another MacLaren hater.


He is the best wet driver, period.

And we know who the worst is.

McLaren hater, well I wouldn't say hater but not a supporter that's for sure. How come Hamilton sounds like an arrogant as* when speaks on TV, it drives me nuts.

Massa has not impressed me at all in wet conditions. Hamilton on the other hand was simply incredible at Silverstone last year.

However this track wet or dry, I don't see McLaren at the front. Their car is too weak at the moment.
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (850arrrsaylikepirate)

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McLaren hater, well I wouldn't say hater but not a supporter that's for sure. How come Hamilton sounds like an arrogant as* when speaks on TV, it drives me nuts.

Massa has not impressed me at all in wet conditions. Hamilton on the other hand was simply incredible at Silverstone last year.

However this track wet or dry, I don't see McLaren at the front. Their car is too weak at the moment.

It is pretty weak. But the rain may change that.

As for arrogant ass.....dunno about that. I met the man in person, heard him speak and got to speak to him. Very humble, IMO.
 

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I didn't see any of the race. Anyone? Are Brawn on the way to a hat trick or even better?

Well, it was an eventiful race...Rain (well, a monsoon) started at around lap 25 and the race was suspended with 26 to go. 40-some minutes later, the race was stopped since it getting dark.

Jenson 1st, Heidfeld 2nd and Glock 3rd! Only half of the regular points per position were administered since the race ended before 75% of the laps were completed (as per the rules). Kinda disappointing not to see the entire race but the conditions were just not safe for racing. A pretty good race, though, up to the point when the race started. I love wet races but this was just too much...torrents of water.

Both Ferraris out of the points and Hamilton scored 2 points but was awarded 1 as per the rules stated above.

Interesting stat, for Jenson; in the past, only 8 drivers have won the first 2 races of a season...all 8 went on to win the Championship.
 

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Great result for Jenson and Brawn GP again. For them, the weather didn't matter, they deserved to win.

Pretty much every other driver's/team result was made by or became a victim of the respective strategy.

From an over-all management-of-the-race standpoint, I'd have to say that the 2009 Malaysian GP was a failure. The "twilight" start was the ultimate killer. Kuala Lumpur has a history of strong storms in the late afternoon and evenings during this time of year so the likely hood for torrential rain was elevated with the later start time right off the bat. Then, when the red flags came out and the race went into suspension, not only was amount of water pouring on the track an issue but also the amount of daylight (or lack there of) available to the drivers! Double whammy.

And then we have Ferrari: an utterly disastrous start for the ladies and gentlemen from Maranello; they can't seem to catch a break...
 

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Stupidity all around
 

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Re: (JRL)

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Stupidity all around

Yup.

Looked like an IRL race or something. No one seemed to know what was going on or what should be happening next.

Started with the massive Ferrari brain fart in Q1 not sending Massa out.

By the way...any info on what happened to Hekki? Replay that I saw showed the car just making a snap right turn into the gravel. Mechanical? Or did he just boot it on a damp track?
 

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Re: The Malaysian Grand Prix - Kuala Lumpur's S ... (Needsdecaf)

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It is pretty weak. But the rain may change that.

As for arrogant ass.....dunno about that. I met the man in person, heard him speak and got to speak to him. Very humble, IMO.

He must have known who he was talking to, is all.


I've heard enough outright arrogance out of his mouth to know for certain that he fits right in amongst all the other 1-time champs, and will fit right in with the multiple champs too, should he ever acheive another WC.

However, I don't think it's fair to say "either you think LH is the best driver (regardless of conditions), or you're a hater", when you have guys like FA, KR, RK and yes, FM. Felipe is easily the most underrated driver on the grid. Last year's early performances in the wet were abominations (sp), as he was still getting acclamated to chenges made during the off-season, and simply didn't acclamate as quickly as other drivers. Keep in mind, there are still some pretty great drivers trying to get used to not having Michelins on their challengers, and we're a couple seasons on from that change. LH is great, for sure, I'm just not apt to heap superlatives on the kid yet. I honestly think the only driver on the grid deserving of a superlative is FA, and I am not, classically, a fan of his.

For some fun viewing, because we *did not* see a wet race yesterday (we saw a dry race that got cancelled when the rain really started), and to back a guy who, in my estimation, is the classiest guy on the grid and underrated:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
These guys should all retire to be bull-fighters or big-game hunters, considering the attachments (to borrow a David Hobbs term) necessary to run like that, in conditions like that. 50 seconds and on for the battle.
 
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