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After a short summer break, Formula 1 is set to return to Valencia. <p><A HREF="http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/8/9742.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.formula1.com/news/h....html</A><p>Toyota and Force India seem plenty optimistic of their chances to improve on the grid as no doubt others are hoping for a similar result. I'm curious to see if Brawn GP can bounce back and keep the other teams from stealing their opportunity for ultimate glory and at the very least, hold onto Jensen's chances at the Driver's crown. <p>Hopefully, Ferrari can continue their improving form. Luca Badoer is looking at this weekend as a sort of "test session" while Schumacher will be present at the circuit, undoubtedly showing his support for Luca and the Scuderia. <p>Meanwhile, Massa continues to improve at a fast rate and has hopes to race yet again this year. At the very least, he's aiming to be ready for his home race at Interlagos.<p>I can hardly wait for Sunday!<p>
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (thesternowl)

Damn...McLaren 1 and 2 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Badoer seems to be <I>really</I> struggling for pace. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (thesternowl)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thesternowl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn...McLaren 1 and 2 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"><p> </TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thesternowl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Badoer seems to be <I>really</I> struggling for pace. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Good thing there's no 107% rule... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (Needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Good thing there's no 107% rule... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You're tellin' me!
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (thesternowl)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thesternowl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn...McLaren 1 and 2 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Badoer seems to be <I>really</I> struggling for pace. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Gee, let's see<br>The man is 39<br>The man has not raced for 10 years<br>The man has not driven the current car<br>DUMB move IMO
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (JRL)

7:55 AM, (EDT) time to RACE <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (JRL)

Although I was dismayed to see McLaren blow the race for Lewis (I do not really care for the guy but I like McLaren) I was super happy (as I can imagine almost everyone associated with F1 was) to see Rubens steal the victory!<p>Another "feel-good" story where a win went to someone who deserved to have had many more wins than his previous 9, in his F1 career. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (GrecianVolvo)

<A HREF="http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/8/9794.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.formula1.com/news/h....html</A><p>Where was Schumacher?<p>George Dill
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (gdill2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gdill2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Where was Schumacher?<p>George Dill</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you serious?
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (GrecianVolvo)

Can't stand McLaren. Used to be "cool" with them but after the whole fiasco two years ago with Ferrari and then way they treated Alonso...their over all team "culture" in general really turned me away. <p>Of course this is only what I see.<p>Great result for Rubens! Very happy for a terribly underrated and often under appreciated driver. <p>Great for Kimi and Ferrari too. Still fast even though he has his mind on WRC <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (thesternowl)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thesternowl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't stand McLaren. Used to be "cool" with them but after the whole fiasco two years ago with Ferrari and then way they treated Alonso...their over all team "culture" in general really turned me away. <p>Of course this is only what I see.<p>Great result for Rubens! Very happy for a terribly underrated and often under appreciated driver. <p>Great for Kimi and Ferrari too. Still fast even though he has his mind on WRC <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Treated Alonso? LOL. More like the other way 'round. <p>Very happy for Rubbino. Guess you can be in your upper 30's and still have pace. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (GrecianVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GrecianVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Although I was dismayed to see McLaren blow the race for Lewis (I do not really care for the guy but I like McLaren) I was super happy (as I can imagine almost everyone associated with F1 was) to see Rubens steal the victory!<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't think he stole it at all. If the (McLaren) pit stop was done properly it would have been VERY close and a great duel to the end.<br>As for McLaren, I think the're a bunch of thugs who now have to work out their poor rep. <br>Nothing to really like about them anymore
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I don't think he stole it at all. If the (McLaren) pit stop was done properly it would have been VERY close and a great duel to the end.<br>As for McLaren, I think the're a bunch of thugs who now have to work out their poor rep. <br>Nothing to really like about them anymore</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hamilton was less than 5 seconds ahead. He never would have made it out in front of Rubens even with a perfect stop. His tire issues during the second stint cost him the race, not that stop.
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (gdill2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gdill2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/8/9794.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.formula1.com/news/h....html</A><p>Where was Schumacher?<p>George Dill</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Racing with his wife... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (Needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Treated Alonso? LOL. More like the other way 'round.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks, Joe! You saved me the typing! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Very few prima donnas have been worse than Alonso. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy as a driver and he is a heck of a talent. He will do well with Ferrari next season. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> But he is just a sourpuss.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very happy for Rubbino</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think it's...Rubinho! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><p>
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>As for McLaren, I think the're a bunch of thugs who now have to work out their poor rep. <br>Nothing to really like about them anymore</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Bull. They are as much as anyone else out there. Their problem is that they got caught and the others did not.
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (GrecianVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GrecianVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p> Their problem is that <B>they got caught</B> and the others did not.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Which makes you (meaning them) a THUG! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (GrecianVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GrecianVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Thanks, Joe! You saved me the typing! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Very few prima donnas have been worse than Alonso. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy as a driver and he is a heck of a talent. He will do well with Ferrari next season. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> But he is just a sourpuss.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>HA!<p>Okay guys...Alonso was being a sourpuss...I'll give you that.<p>However, and I say this again without reservation: the way McLaren treated Alonso was bad form. Please don't be confused lads: him being a sourpuss was the result, not a cause (even if it's in his demeanor to be such) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Heck, even Martin Whitmarsh admits they messed up! <A HREF="http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090822122731.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/he...shtml</A><br>
 

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Re: The European Grand Prix - Streets of Valencia - starts 8-21-09 (thesternowl)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thesternowl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>HA!<p>Okay guys...Alonso was being a sourpuss...I'll give you that.<p>However, and I say this again without reservation: the way McLaren treated Alonso was bad form. Please don't be confused lads: him being a sourpuss was the result, not a cause (even if it's in his demeanor to be such) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Heck, even Martin Whitmarsh admits they messed up! <A HREF="http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090822122731.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/he...shtml</A><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here's what I will say:<p>Ron Dennis is a nutjob. Borderline OCD (well maybe not borderline), etc. It takes a certain type of person to work there. And there is a certain "cult-like" mentality to working for an organization headed by someone like that. <p>But that doesn't make them thugs. <p>The story always has two sides, and is always more enlightened from within than without. <p>Hell, to me, what Ferrari did to Schumacher was worse! But I won't judge. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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