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I drove 2hrs to Richmond to check out the silver V70 R at the dealer down there. 26400 miles, in service date of Nov. '99. build date 4/99. Asking $34,900k. Will sell for $34k.<BR>- indash 3 CD surround sound (center speaker in dash) setup<BR>- has a hitch<BR>- new Continental CH95 tires ( I believe it was the CH95)<BR>- silver/grey alcantera<BR>- car was sold new and traded back in at the same dealer- did a CarFax report, all looks legit.<BR>- has the roof side rails but no cross members for hauling stuff on the roof.<BR>- the 5spd automatic shifted smooth.<BR>- body looks straight, no signs of a respray, that I could see<BR>- rear booster seats<P>complaints:<BR>- the car needs detailed, suprised at how dirty it was for being on a dealer's lot--it looks like the owner just dropped it off, dirt on the rear floor mats, scuff marks on the rear door panels, etc.<BR>- funny cleaner smell, they tried to get the "smoking" smell out before I got there...didn't smell bad, just fruity.<BR>- front windshield has one decent chip and a couple small chips in the wiper range--they said they may replace it as part of the deal.<BR>- several stone chips on the front, to be expected but still sucks to see.<BR>- previous owner definately "drove" and "used" the car for the wagon it was.<BR>- scratchs and 2 cuts on the back of the passenger side seat-- can these be repaired?<BR>- blue scuff mark by the speaker on the rear door - hopefully it will come off.<BR>- rear bumper cover ledge has some noticeable nicks and scratchs and one or two gouges--again, definately used for hauling.<BR>- the hood on the car would slowly come down, it just wouldn't stay up.<BR>- while driving it felt like a wheel was out of balance, or maybe it was the characteristic of the AWD system...it just felt like the was a slight shimmy.<BR>- acceleration didn't "feel" all that fast, could feel some clunks in the drive train when it dropped down a gear to take off. Our '99 GLT feels equally if not quicker off the line.<BR>- under acceleration you could really hear the turbo and the revs.<BR>- I checked the oil and the dip stick had a brown oil stain on most of the entire shaft--yeah I'm nit picking but it only has 26k and its $34k of my money.<BR>- driver's side front door, top rubber moulding was getting pulled in by the window.<BR>- no cargo/security cover, under $200 to buy.<BR>- under $200 to get the roof bars to haul stuff--the ones that are not suppose to make wind noise?<BR>- one wheel had about 2inches of curb rash.<P>My concern is that this puppy wasn't pampered and the turbo may not have been cooled down or warmed up properly. The guy towed a small boat, not sure what else. They mentioned getting the previous owner's name so I could ask him questions. I don't have a "bad" feeling about the car but for $34k I'd like it to be a hell of a lot cleaner and closer to new looking.<P>How does it compare, performance wise to a new V70 T5 with the 247hp front wheel drive setup?<P>Are there certain quirks with these AWD V70s or the Rs in particular?<P>The sales person was very nice and knowledgeable.<P>I appreciate any feedback you guys could provide.<P>Thanks,<BR>Chris<BR><p>[This message has been edited by 83caddy16v (edited 04-20-2001).]
 

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Chris,<P>Is this the car that you looked at, at Mooers Volvo, in Richmond?<P> <IMG SRC="http://images.autotrader.com/613/298/61329870_001107_240x180.jpg"> <P>It sounds like I almost would not touch that car if I were in your position. The dealer retail value for that car should be around $32,800, so by lowering the price, they are not really doing you any favor considering all of the problems it "potentially" has.<P>I would be a little weary of a premium AWD car that feels out of balance and has a towing/hauling history. Unless you ask the previous owner, you really have no idea of what kind of abuse the car has taken.<P>There is also a black 99' V70R AWD in New Jersey with 28,450 miles going for $30k. <P>Besides that, there is a beautiful Saffron Metallic 98' V70R AWD on Ebay, currently with no reserve going for just over $16,000. It is in Pittsburgh.<P> <IMG SRC="http://image.honesty.com/imagedata/h/239/37/32393724.jpg"> <P><B>Best of all, check this one out!</B><P>It is in Kingston PA, and has about $2,000 worth of work done to it. It is already chipped, has a high-flow exhaust, and tinted windows, probably pushing close to 290hp. Going for $28,900. A little on the high-mile side though.<P> <IMG SRC="http://images.autoconnect.com/img/car/98763332939318656120.JPG"> <P>-Drew
 

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Thanks Drew. <BR>Yes, the one at Mooers Volvo, in Richmond, is the one I test drove. It needs a few hundred dollars of TLC to getting it looking good. I would have thought the dealer would have had its body shop clean this thing up and ask $36k for it. Maybe they have had it awhile. The window sticker says $35.9, when I called he said $34.9 and when he called back he said $34k.<P>some picts they emailed me:<BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.autosporttuning.com/photos/Mvc-001e.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.autosporttuning.com/photos/Mvc-002e.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.autosporttuning.com/photos/Mvc-003e.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.autosporttuning.com/photos/Mvc-004e.jpg"> <P><BR>I saw that one on ebay it looks really good, but I'd prefer the grey interior. I'm going to keep looking, one is bound to come along.<P>Chris<BR>
 

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I don't know. Any prior towing history would scare me unless I knew the guy, but that's just me. These cars are rare, but not impossible. Depending on how serious you are man, I may know someone who can help you out. I know you are local to me, and I know a dealer who is not opposed to finding cars for people, he's actually quite good at it. Shoot me an email privately if you are interested.
 

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Thanks George, I think I'm going to get a new V70 T5. Performance is probably close between the two. Part of me still prefers the squared bodystyle.<P><BR>
 

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There is another V70R AWD on Ebay, this time it is black/graphite.<P><A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=583240451&r=0&t=0" TARGET=_blank>1998 V70R AWD</A><P>-Drew
 

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Caddy, my friend at Annapolis has a black/graphite 50K mile '98 that he just picked up. I just sent you an email, but you may want to check it out. They don't have it on the lot yet.<P>george
 
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