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I am trying to install a turbo timer on my R. I got everything installed and ready to go but nothing... Evidentely there is some sort of antenna in the steering column that detects whether or not the key is in the ignition. Does anyone know of a way to bypass this?<p>TIA
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R_Rated</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am trying to install a turbo timer on my R. I got everything installed and ready to go but nothing... Evidentely there is some sort of antenna in the steering column that detects whether or not the key is in the ignition. Does anyone know of a way to bypass this?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>As an EE, I'd stay away from anything that could spoof the immobilizer circuitry. If you can find someone who has done a remote start on a P2 Volvo, they might have some clues. But I'm not sure it's worth the risk. The R really doesn't need a TT, IMO. <p>
 

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Re: Tech question (R_Rated)

i don't know how volvo does it, but i installed a remote starter on my friend's daughter's car, and it was a chevy beretta (i think), and it used a type of RF that when it was detected in the ignition, it would close a 5Volt circuit to the ECU to signify its presence. i got around this by supplying a constant 5 volts so the computer always "saw" it.<p>might be something to look for.<p>let me know what you find.
 

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Re: Tech question (JimLill)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLill</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...If you can find someone who has done a remote start on a P2 Volvo, they might have some clues...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>One solution for a remote start is to get a key blank, have it programed to your car - and then securely mount it behind/in the dashboard near the antenna. That way it's fooled into thinking that a key is always in the ignition.<p>John<br>
 

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The possibility of car theft is greater than turbo fry however........
 

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Re: Tech question (JimLill)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLill</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>As an EE, I'd stay away from anything that could spoof the immobilizer circuitry. If you can find someone who has done a remote start on a P2 Volvo, they might have some clues. But I'm not sure it's worth the risk. The R really doesn't need a TT, IMO. <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>this would be true for a stock R or one with simple bolt ons... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> it also does other things like a/f ratio, voltage and a couple other things.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLill</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The possibility of car theft is greater than turbo fry however........ </TD></TR></TABLE><p>If the ebrake is lowered then the car will NOT start again till they key is used to turn the ignition(not proper wording but you know what i mean).
 

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Regardless of what turbo you put in your car, a/f is controlled via ECU. If you start controlling a/f via some other means, then you've got to worry about spark, timing, etc. Anyways . . . you're opening a whole can of worms with a turbo timer, from theft issues, to warranty issues, etc.<p>I'm not saying DON'T do it -- it's your car. However, if it were me, I'd let my brain remember to let the car cool down, and let my butt stay in the driver's seat while that's going on, versus spending money on something that would result in far more complications than solutions.<p>Nevertheless, best of luck in your endeavors! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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A turbo timer does not " control " anything other than how long the car runs after it is turned off. As soon as the Ebrake is released then the car automatically shuts off and there would be no more risk of theft than pre- mod. A turbo timer would not hurt the warranty unless the install was "goofed" or the turbo timer was manipulated to do something other than what it was inted to do.<br>I am pretty set on this and appresiate the concerns... i am more looking for solutions on how to accomplish this than whether or not to do it.
 

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Team NJ is doing turbo timers basically for track after the cool down lap<p>Race engineers recommend them, that is all I can say. Look at how good I do punctuation now with commas LOL<p>I have so many updates but not yet (racing cost money and takes a long time)<p>NJ #1 has been at ATspeed for 3 months so far, comma probably 2 more months
 

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Having been a Volvo tech for over 20+ yrs now, I can assure you that Volvo turbos do not fail w/o turbo timers, not even in very old Volvo turbo cars and especially since '87 when they went to water cooled (vs oil only). We have two old turbo Volvo cars here as well, never go out of our way to idle or cool the engines down before turning them off with normal driving. Unless you're actually racing, the turbo isn't normally hot and doesn't require excess idling before turning the engine off.<br> The turbo timer is a "ricer" thing IMHO and I'd never advise one UNLESS you're actually racing the car and even then, could just idle it for a minute or two if you were just racing (foot into throttle).<br> What does kill turbos is lack of oil changes. The turbo usually fails just before the rest of the engine starts acting up, like knocking or oil light at idle.
 

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Thank you for the input. All is appreciated on opinions and reasons to and not to get one... Basically, the topic is asking for technical info on how to; NOT if to...<p>Does anyone have any advice on the origional question and reason for this thread? Thanks again.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Just Frank</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you're actually racing, the turbo isn't normally hot and doesn't require excess idling before turning the engine off.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's very reassuring to hear about Volvo turbo durability; however, if you don't think turbos run hot, I dare you to touch one after a brief drive on a nice warm day.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dare you to touch one after a brief drive on a nice warm day</TD></TR></TABLE><p> It being water cooled, will be at least coolant temperature, probably not more so yes.....hot to touch.
 
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