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So, whats the difference between the two engines. They're the same basic 5 cylinder engine. What gives the R the 50 more hp; better computer tuning, different turbo, slightly changed engine set up, bigger air intake?<p>as you can see I dont know too much about the R, i have a t5
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (T5atl)

It's a long list <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> that starts with 0.2 litres more displacement, and bigger everything (turbo, intake, injectors, up-pipe, dual intercoolers, etc, etc....)<p>Test drive an R and you will switch! I did and I'm VERY HAPPY <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>LTA<p>
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (T5atl)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>T5atl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So, whats the difference between the two engines. They're the same basic 5 cylinder engine. What gives the R the 50 more hp; better computer tuning, different turbo, slightly changed engine set up, bigger air intake?<p>as you can see I dont know too much about the R, i have a t5 </TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>you just answered your own question bud <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (LTA)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LTA</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's a long list <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> that starts with 0.2 litres more displacement, and bigger everything (turbo, intake, injectors, up-pipe, dual intercoolers, etc, etc....)<p>Test drive an R and you will switch! I did and I'm VERY HAPPY <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>LTA<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>For 2006, the T5 is a 2.4L, and the R is a 2.5L. The T5 now also has the same turbo and intercooler as the R.<p>If you want a nice car with a beautiful interior and bunches of technology, go for an R.<p>If you want to blast down the straight aways, go for a T5.<p>Giving both a chip and turbo-back exhaust, the T5 will absolutely walk an R, and I speak from first hand experience.<p>The R interior is hard to pass up though.
 

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i agree with Nebor. I have an R and a 99 S70 T5.<p>The T5 S70 probably is similar in terms of power/weight ratio to the current S60 T5. way different chassis...but similar power/weigyh.<p>my S70 has ONLY an exhaust system on it and it has gobs of power. my R is way faster, but my S70 is NO slouch. I really think if I chipped and added dp to my T5 it might beat the R. it's lighter and coudl make a lot of power with more bolt ons.<p>for overall sportiness - and getting more performance out of the box, the R is better. <p>
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (Nebor)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nebor</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>Giving both a chip and turbo-back exhaust, the T5 will absolutely walk an R, and I speak from first hand experience.<p>.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>...And then you chip the R in return, and it is faster again. You have to compare stock to stock. You can make a Scion quicker than the R if you want to.
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (phuz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>phuz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>you just answered your own question bud <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>lol<p>im gonna chip it sometime, but i have the geartronic tran. Back when i got it i decied against the manual, but now i regret it. But hey i can compalin, i got this car ata great price:p 12900 for a car kbb puts a 21000 lol.
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (flybynight)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>...And then you chip the R in return, and it is faster again. You have to compare stock to stock. You can make a Scion quicker than the R if you want to.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's why I said giving BOTH a chip and turbo-back. Maybe I should have said "both of them."<p>Given an R with chip and turbo back vs. a T5 with chip and turbo back, the T5 will win, no doubt about it. They've given the T5 all of the R's goodies, with none of it's complexity or weight.<p>
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (Nebor)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nebor</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>For 2006, the T5 is a 2.4L, and the R is a 2.5L. The T5 now also has the same turbo and intercooler as the R.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Good point, thanks. I was thinking of my <I>old</I> MY02 T5.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nebor</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Giving both a chip and turbo-back exhaust, the T5 will absolutely walk an R, and I speak from first hand experience.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Really? 0-60? 1/4mile? Track? Would you please elaborate on your first-hand experience <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>LTA<br>
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (Nebor)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nebor</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Giving both a chip and turbo-back exhaust, the T5 will absolutely walk an R, and I speak from first hand experience.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't really care that there are faster cars out there than the R <B><I>BUT</I></B> I find it very hard to believe that a reflashed T5 with its smaller-displacement engine and the same factory tack-ons will make enough additional power to "walk" a reflashed R, despite its 300lb handicap. Whether it has all of the R's engine bay goodies or not (does it really?), it still begins its life 43hp weaker and with a 0-60 time of 7.3 seconds. As another said, let's hear about that first-hand experience. My guess is that your reflashed T5 beat a stock R with a geartronic or a driver who could not launch it properly. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>- Tryg
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (RainyS60R)

Not a reflashed geartronic lol <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> 21psi
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (RainyS60R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RainyS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I don't really care that there are faster cars out there than the R <B><I>BUT</I></B> I find it very hard to believe that a reflashed T5 with its smaller-displacement engine and the same factory tack-ons will make enough additional power to "walk" a reflashed R, despite its 300lb handicap. Whether it has all of the R's engine bay goodies or not (does it really?), it still begins its life 43hp weaker and with a 0-60 time of 7.3 seconds. As another said, let's hear about that first-hand experience. My guess is that your reflashed T5 beat a stock R with a geartronic or a driver who could not launch it properly. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>- Tryg</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Your forgetting a few things. Not only is the R at a 300lb deficit, but it's got a horribly programmed AWD system sapping it's power. Massive drivetrain loss compared to the T5. There are plenty of people here with Rs modded with turbo back exhaust and chips, and they still struggle for horsepower to the wheels. Whereas there are T5 members with the same mods putting nearly 290hp to the front wheels!<p>My experience was in freeway pulls with an S60 T5 versus an R, both similarly modified. The T5 would rapidly walk away from the R going from 50 on up.<p>Not to say the Rs are all slow. I had a run in with a black R built almost entirely of Svenske parts a while back here in Dallas, and that thing would move like a scalded cat.
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (RainyS60R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RainyS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I don't really care that there are faster cars out there than the R <B><I>BUT</I></B> I find it very hard to believe that a reflashed T5 with its smaller-displacement engine and the same factory tack-ons will make enough additional power to "walk" a reflashed R, despite its 300lb handicap. Whether it has all of the R's engine bay goodies or not (does it really?), it still begins its life 43hp weaker and with a 0-60 time of 7.3 seconds. As another said, let's hear about that first-hand experience. My guess is that your reflashed T5 beat a stock R with a geartronic or a driver who could not launch it properly. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>- Tryg</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The discplacement difference only results in a 10 crank HP difference when tuned.<br>The 10 more HP of the still needs to overcome the weight disadvantage.<br>So from a roll a chipped T5 can walk an R. There still is the traction part of course which gives the R it's edge but the added weight can be it's disadvantage also in certain situations.
 

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Re: t-5 vs R (Johann)

The older S60/V70NT5 models need a 19T to get near the same level of tune btw.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nebor</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...Whereas there are T5 members with the same mods putting nearly 290hp to the front wheels!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>290hp at the wheels in FWD from a rolling start on on the highway might be good to be a P2 R but off the line you better hold on to your dentures <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> hop hop hop hop <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>LTA<br>
 

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Well Johann's chipped S60R was marginally faster on the highway than my 850, of course that was before i reached 5000rpm, after that my power went bye bye and he drove away somewhat comfortably <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> Still i've only got 280 crank or so. A new model T-5 with a chip will go faster in a straight line than an R I believe, though the diff wont be huge. I dont think off the line it would be a slaughter either, the R isnt that launch happy
 

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There's hope for the T5 afterall.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>My goal is to soon get my T5 modded and spank a stock R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>blackTT55</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I goal is to soon get my T5 modded and spank a stock R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You should make your goal to fix your grammar first...then to spank an R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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What grammar error? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>blackTT55</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's hope for the T5 afterall.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>My goal is to soon get my T5 modded and spank a stock R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE>
 
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