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does anyone other than ipd offer sway bars for our amazing cars? any of you guys have sway bars? will focus/mazda3 sway bars fit since certain other suspesion components are the same?
 

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I have not looked through who sells what, so I cannot help you for what parts will fit. What I can say is that the 22 mm IPD rear sway bar was easy to install, relatively cheap (about 150 $ US), and VERY effective. I got my dad to change the rear sway bar on his Acura TSX (Comptech is the brand) and he also says it makes a huge difference for the better. <br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bassman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're right. I believe it was on sale when I bought it, and I believe it was 179$. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>lucky!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I have the IPD rear bar on my car. It only looked 1-2mm bigger than the stock bar. I have not noticed any difference in the handling. The Traction Control kicks in before I get to the limit where the bar will help. If you really want to improve the handling, buy performance tires. The tires that came on my car are awful.
 

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I think the rear was 15 mm stock, IPD 22 mm or somesuch.<br>I definitely cannot speak for mball's experience. Only mine.<p>The change in the bar was pretty noticeable for me, and immediately. Here were the changes. All this with the stock tires (which I changed later).<p>- Ability in a U-turn to swipe the rear tires (stock Michelins). Not saying this is a good idea. But it's indicative.<br>- Car not sloshing around as much in fast twitch turns.<br>- Car turning easier in general, especially noticeable as I accelerate from 30 to 70 MPH on a long curve onto a freeway. That's the classic FWD-limited situation, where the front tires can't turn and push against the road because the front tires are total-force-capability-limited. The rear sway bar will a) flatted the car a bit, but more importantly b) LESSEN the traction in the rear, making FWD turn-around easier. It's a known phenomenon: stiffer rear sway bar to neutralize FWD understeer.<br>- More tightness (and therefore roughness) even going straight, probably the roads here are never smooth. You're not supposed to feel anything in straights, but I do. It's like there is a tightness in the rear that becomes a tightness in my butt. It's hard to describe.<br>- Now that I'm more sensitive to this stuff, I can feel the car's geometries changing as I turn, even just around town. The rear sway bar shifts the car weight more towards the outer rear tire. I can actually feel this. The inner rear tire does not lift off the road, of course, but it feels like it "comes up" a bit, as if there is less weight on it. <br>- All in all, it's pretty cool. I wish I did this on my old Golf years ago.<p>I convinced my dad to change the sway bar on his TSX. He had already been completely enamored of that finely tuned machine. But after changing the rear bar to a Comptech stiffer one, he realized what he was missing.<p>I'm not prone to overexaggeration:<p>I also added a front strut tower brace. I'll say that this change did almost nothing.<br>Also, I changed the air filter to the K&N. My "butt dyno" could not tell much difference.<p>
 

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I have always upgraded my rear bar, I should add that true neutral handling can be dangerous for the novice. That said enjoy a rear bar but be careful especially in low traction situation. All swaybars work by loading the already loaded tire thus in general decreasing overall adhesion yes I said decreasing, all well and fun till a lift throttle low traction situation where the car has a tendency to swap ends. Basically if you think you are going to lose it in a turn don’t step the brakes or you WILL lose it. Hence my warning for novices.
 

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did any of you guys have problems getting any of the bolts off? because I am sure having one heck of a time. any suggestions?
 

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I'm with mball. I have the IPD rear sway bar and have not noticed much of a difference. ($150 on sale). If I was doing it again I would put that money towards a good set of struts. Koni offers a set for our car. I've already changed out the stock Michellins. Those tires were horrible.
 

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Thanks for that info! I'm glad I wasn't the only one. So if I understand correctly, the four blue bushings aren't need on an '05 car right? Just put it back on where the old one came off?<p>edit: ok I got it I just checked where you replied in my "HELP" topic, thanks again
 

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I would also like to point out that the Heavy Duty Front End Links for the P2 cars (like V70, S60, XC90) will be a direct fit to our car and are 12mm thick with better ball joints. IPD has them $40 each. Just a nice upgrade if your going to do the rear...might as well make the front just as good <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tarheelvolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the Heavy Duty Front End Links for the P2 cars (like V70, S60, XC90) will be a direct fit to our car </TD></TR></TABLE><br>You sure about that? Tried it?<p>tayk47: they're heavier duty, and on the P2 the stock ones develop play over time. So as a replacement part they're superior, but if the original is still tight, not much different.<p>Tom.
 

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I have not tried the install myself so "I" am not sure if they fit but Lucky at IPD put them on a project S40 they are working on and said it was a direct bolt-on. So I guess of you believe the R&D guys at IPD then yes...i am sure...otherwise, its up to you <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I might undertake this endeavor in the near future, and when I do I will take pics and let you guys know.<p>Speaking of which....are we ever gonna get the DIY/Tech forum setup so we can post things like this, or intake install, spring, install, etc... and other's can follow our guidlines At Their Own Risk of course? It sure would be nice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tarheelvolvo at 1:28 PM 8-11-2006</i>
 

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Good to know. Thanks.<p>Tom.
 

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tayk47, do tell us what your impressions are after installing the bar. There are varying opinions, but we're all learning as we read others' experiences.<p>
 

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Ok will do. I'll take some pictures for future reference and maybe so ipd can put up instructions for the new S40 to dispell all the confusion everyone seems to be having. Maybe if I take good pics ipd will throw some "good job, thanks for the help" money my way :crosses fingers: haha<p>as for performance afterwards Im sure I will enjoy the difference. It seems as tho the more experienced/technical people on the forum noticed a difference, and I assume I will too. I have an AutoX coming up and will definitely give a review afterwards.
 
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