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How hard would it be, and if possible at all to take all the turbo components from a 2.4T and swap it to a 2.4N/A?
 

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Re: swap turbo to N/A (miha11)

<B>This is the R forum</B><br>150 posts, you should be ashamed of yourself, you're not a newbie. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>You've also been here long enough to have read this question many times.<br>Sell your car, buy a turbo, it's cheaper to do
 

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Re: swap turbo to N/A (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><B>This is the R forum</B><br>150 posts, you should be ashamed of yourself, you're not a newbie. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>You've also been here long enough to have read this question many times.<br>Sell your car, buy a turbo, it's cheaper to do</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sorry, but +1 what JRL said. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> wrong forum, and way too much time, effort, and $$ to make it worthwile anyway. Time for a new car.
 

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Another +1 to JRL's response.<p>Going from NA to turbo isn't just the price of the parts...it's the time you put into it, or the time you pay someone to put into it.<p>That being said, just upgrading to the 2.4T is like a dwarf saying "I just want to be a half inch taller". Might as well make it worthwhile and research something big.
 

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sorry I understand about the wrong forum, I quickly clicked on the R forum. Mr. JRL it shall not happen again. What if I already have all the parts required to do this, the turbo, pipes, lines, intercooler?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>miha11</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What if I already have all the parts required to do this, the turbo, pipes, lines, intercooler?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just like I said earlier...if you're willing to put the time and money into the actual <u>installation, testing and fine tuning</u> of the thing, then go for it. It is very possible to do if you're willing to do all of that.
 

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<IMG SRC="http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii298/R410a/stuff/OhNo.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>thats it
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>miha11</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> What if I already have all the parts required to do this, the turbo, pipes, lines, intercooler?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Someone correct me if I'm wrong, You'll still need the software to manage the turbo? That seems like it would be the hardest part to me.
 

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Softwre, new PISTONS and liners ($$$$$), and a bunch of other stuff.<br>The 2.4 has too much compression (to be safe) which is why an LPT is a 2.3 instead.<br>Thicker cylinder walls/liners, smaller pistons
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>miha11</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry I understand about the wrong forum, I quickly clicked on the R forum. Mr. JRL it shall not happen again. What if I already have all the parts required to do this, the turbo, pipes, lines, intercooler?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Let me put it this way...A friend at work has an older civic. He recently bought a "bolt-on" turbo kit for it, and (remembering this is just a honda), he had considerable issues, leaks, retrofitting of pipes, redo of boost controller, multiple tunings....<p>It didn't get too out of hand financially, but for something that is done on a pretty regular basis for all of 7 psi of boost into a 4cyl engine...it was pretty rough.
 

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Put it this way I wouldnt even tackle this on a $100 850 let alone a newer car. <p>Just not worth the hassle for the little bit of power your going to get mainly due to you can only put on a 13g and super low boost and woudl be better off just trading yoru car in for a T5 or R
 

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Yeah i owuld listen to all these guys even with all "the parts" you are still looking at a ton of money the compression ratio is all wrong then you would have to do something about the tunning as stated above. If you really want a turbo car put yours up for sale and buy one
 

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Re: swap turbo to N/A (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Softwre, new PISTONS and liners ($$$$$), and a bunch of other stuff.<br>The 2.4 has too much compression (to be safe) which is why an LPT is a 2.3 instead.<br>Thicker cylinder walls/liners, smaller pistons</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Newer NA and LPT blocks are pretty much identical. Difference is pistons, maybe rods but I don't even think they are different. Rod bearings could be different. NA blocks are missing the oil feed and return connections for the turbo. They can be seen in the casting of the block but they are not machined.
 

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Search Racerken he turned a N/A s60 to a t5. It is pointless to put a turbo on a stock s60 engine best way to go is a complete swap I have thought about this conversion a great deal but don't have the time to invest in such a project.
 

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Just remember though, if you're going to do a conversion like this you better have a beater to get you around town for a while because your S60 is going to be down for a while. Something to think about too.
 

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Re: swap turbo to N/A (miha11)

Just to add my two cents to the conversation, i have a 2.4T and have been in the process if deciding where to start and it all led me one way.....sell and get a T5 or old V70 R. Im actually in the process of trading to a S70 T5 (possibly), because you start out with more and it is really just a good platform to start with. Just a thought but you could prob, get rid of the NA and all those parts, and then get a S70 or V70 turbo with decent mileage. Youll be able to make either a rocket for not too much money
 

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thanks for all the advice, that's why the forum is here for. I decided to take the advice and go against the idea, however I found a 2002 T5 manual with 138,000km for $9495.
 

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Re: swap turbo to N/A (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 2.4 has too much compression (to be safe) which is why an LPT is a 2.3 instead.<br>Thicker cylinder walls/liners, smaller pistons</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually, the LPT is also a 2.4 (unless 2004 or newer IIRC). The HPT is a 2.3 for the reasons you cited....though it became a 2.4 later on.
 

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If the cars never came from the factory with a turbo on them, it'd make sense to do the swap. Like how so many people do manual swaps into 850 turbos. <p>But turbo S60s are plentiful, so it makes no sense. It's like adding a sunroof. Sure you could do it but you're solving a problem that really doesn't exist.
 
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