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Looking for opinions on switching from summer to winter tires. Better to get second set of R rims rather than change tires? is tire integrity compromised in any way pulling on and off a couple times a season?
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (row)

in my opinion, swapping tires back and forth on the same rims is more an issue of potential rim damage--every time the poor low-wage kid at the tire shop puts your rim on the tire mounting gizmo, there's another chance for a gouge in that alloy; plus at $50 to mount all 4 (or thereabouts) x 2 each year, the cost of the rims goes down the longer you keep them.<p>first winter I swapped mine, last winter I bought dedicated rims from TireRack with Dunlop M3 wintersports...and I'm quite happy I did.
 

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Even with AWD, the stock rubber doesn't work well in snow. IMHO, the easiest thing to do is buy a cheap set of rims, and mount them with winter rubber. I have the dunlop M3 Sports and am happy with them - but everybody has their favorite. Check out ronalusa.com and tirerack.com for some cheap rim options. If you are running 18" pegs, you also might want to consider going to a 17" rim for your winter tires. They will give you better grip in the snow. If you buy a 2nd set, you can just get them mounted one time and just switch them out whenever the weather changes.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by BShirer at 11:32 PM 8-22-2006</i>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BShirer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMHO, the easiest thing to do is buy a cheap set of rims, and mount them with winter rubber. Check out ronalusa.com and tirerack.com for some cheap rim options. If you are running 18" pegs, you also might want to consider going to a 17" rim for your winter tires. They will give you better grip in the snow. If you buy a 2nd set, you can just get them mounted one time and just switch them out whenever the weather changes.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Great advice. TireRack usually has a rim option for around $100-$120/wheel available. Go the 17" route and consider dropping a size as well. I run 225/45/17 Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2's. The narrower tread gives better winter traction and also reduces the chance of rubbing resulting from the snow tires broader shoulders.
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (row)

It is definitely worth getting a set of winter wheels. Many of us took advantage of a deal a couple years ago on the Peg's but there are probably more fitments available now.
 

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I think you can strike a good compromise by opting for a set of high performance all-season tires for year 'round use. This is what I do on my A4. Tire Rack will have a recommendation for you.<p>However, an extra set of wheels with dedicated winter tires will have you praying for blizzards. <p>Electronic AWD + stability control + ABS + winter tires + snow = <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>row</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looking for opinions on switching from summer to winter tires. Better to get second set of R rims rather than change tires? is tire integrity compromised in any way pulling on and off a couple times a season?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's exactly what I do - I have 18" Pegs for my summer tires (currently Dunlop race tires because they were dirt cheap, but was Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s before, and the stock Pirelli's before that) and one set of 17" Pegs with Vredestein Wintrac V XL 235/45/17 for winter tires.<p>One thing I'd note on swapping tires additional to potential rim damage is that your winter tires will probably last you several years... that means the "bead" on them is going to take a beating for several mount/dismounts, and each time they will have to be re-balanced.<p>I actually have 12 rims and 12 tires, but that's a different story. If you go with 18s for performance and 17s for the winter, I think that is by far the best solution.
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (djeuch)

I live in central Indiana so we don't get a ton of snow. My car is leased (but may purchase it...but that's 2 1/2 years away). I was thinking of just getting A/S 18" tires and keeping the pegs on. Is it really that bad in my part of the country to use the 18" pegs in our winters? If it's really a good deal I might go with 17" rim/tire package but that seems a bit of overkill in my area of the country. Plus I've got the wagon if it's really bad weather.<p>
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (soledoc)

I've got the Avon A/S on right now from TireRack. We'll see how they do in the winter time. Currently they are 235s on 18 inchers. They are fabulous in the rain.
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (HJZ)

I also like the AVons. I had them on my T5 with 17" rims. They are #1 on my list to replace the stock Pirellis. I was very pleased with them. We had a fairly mild winter last year but I did try them out in some light snow and they were fantastic in comparison with the Pirellis P6 stock tire.
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (soledoc)

Not sure how potholed the roads get where you are, but I feel a little better driving on 17's in the winter where I live due to the little extra sidewall height.
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (row)

shouldn't this be moved to the wheel discussion. This has nothing to do with an R. Oh adminstrators, your glorious duty summons you once again.
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (R Crazy)

I'm going to go through this when I move to Chicago in a few months. I'll probably get a set of 17" pegs and some bridgestone blizzaks, or the continental ts790v's - that way I can drive to northern Wisconsin (or places like it) in the winter and not worry about it. <p>And to satisfy those who think this is OT, does anyone have an R with the bridgestones? How are they with ride/handling when it's not snowing? The LM-25 is V rated, and it meets the R's load index. <p>The Continental ts790v looks pretty nice as well. I'd rather have the V rating, as you never know how fast you'll need to go. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I also might consider the A/S route. Is there really that much traction difference between dedicated snows and A/S tires? And is it worth putting up with the extra noise and handling issues?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Crazy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">shouldn't this be moved to the wheel discussion. This has nothing to do with an R. Oh adminstrators, your glorious duty summons you once again.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>What is with you today?<br>You want EVERYTHING moved to another forum, this makes the 3rd and counting...<br>(No, I don't BTW and neither does anyone else)
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (soledoc)

I have 18's and Michelins PS ALL Seasons. However I didn't have the chance last year to try them out, very little snow
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (JRL)

If you live in the Sierras, Rockies, or other mountainous areas with tons of snow, you almost need three sets of tires mounted. Summers. All seasons for late Sept to Christmas. Then dedicated snows for late December to late March. Then all seasons for April and half of May. Sounds nuts, but we can get a 2 foot storm in mid October, then perhaps nothing until Thanksgiving. This way, you don't get stuck with your summers at the first snow storm, and your not scrubbing off your Wintersports in October, November, and April. oclv
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (oclv)

I would agree with buying some cheap rims and dedicated winter tires. I went with some $99 17" rims from Tire Rack and the Michelin Pilot Sport Alpine. Then before summer came around I went ahead and replaced the stock Pirellis that everyone on this forum seems to love so much with P/S AS.<p>It is much simpler to just swap the whole rim/tire combo and have it re-balanced , not to mention after two or three swaps I will have paid for my rims vs/ having to pay for the rim change. And it really doesn't take up any more space to store 4 extra rims + tires as just the tires. Also, I was a little more comfortable having the extra inch of rubber w/ 17" rims for winter driving. <p>A final note, I was OCONUS when I ordered from tire rack and they were SUPER easy to deal with and their shipping to APO was very reasonable.
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (schweizerdp)

I used to do the summer / winter tire swap dance, both on 1 set of rims and 2. This was back when I had RWD cars, though! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>However, given the amount of snow we get in NY / NJ these days, it hardly seems worth it any more. Especially given the fact that the UHP A/S tires have so much performance to offer, likely more than I'll ever use, and that the car is AWD. Living so close to work now, I can simply walk, drive at 5mph or just stay home in a blizzard. This was not the case 1 year ago, however. <p>So in my case, the A/S compromise is perfect. Obviously, your case may vary. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Summer/Winter tire swap (row)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>row</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looking for opinions on switching from summer to winter tires. Better to get second set of R rims rather than change tires? is tire integrity compromised in any way pulling on and off a couple times a season?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>thats what i plan on doing. might as well start looking for deals now, and keep me in the loop <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>
 
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