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1. what is the spec amd minimal thickness for rotors,,,have to turn at 36K miles with new pads?<p>2. Why do R drivres want to turn off the DSTC? Isn't it a safety feature?
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (bdoon51)

You are not supposed to turn modern rotors.<br>As for the next question, if you have to ask, you should NOT be driving an R
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (bdoon51)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bdoon51</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2. Why do R drivres want to turn off the DSTC? Isn't it a safety feature?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Try going up a snowy incline with it turned on.
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (850arrrsaylikepirate)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>850arrrsaylikepirate</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Try going up a snowy incline with it turned on.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Try doing 4 wheel burnouts in snow/rain/dry pavement with it on. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (bdoon51)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bdoon51</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>2. Why do R drivres want to turn off the DSTC? Isn't it a safety feature?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If you turn it off, you get into heaven.
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (TWBarrett)

how about: "good luck turning it off" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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"Stupid is as stupid does" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Forrest Gump.
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (TWBarrett)

I love all these folks who apparently cannot answer the technical question so make what they think is a humourous or clever remark...at least one person thinks it is clever.
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (bdoon51)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bdoon51</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love all these folks who apparently cannot answer the technical question so make what they think is a humourous or clever remark...at least one person thinks it is clever.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I see both questions answered:<p>1) Don't turn them<p>2) Snow use or for increased performance characteristics.
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (bdoon51)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bdoon51</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love all these folks who apparently cannot answer the technical question so make what they think is a humourous or clever remark...at least one person thinks it is clever.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>We ALL gave you an answer, DO NOT TURN THEM
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (JRL)

JRL:<p>Who says you aren't suppose to turn rotors? I'm sure you have a reason and the technical reference to back up what you say but why would a shop be allowed by law to turn them as long as they meet minimum thickness specifications? <p>Seems to me, the purpose of turning rotors is to smooth out the surface of said rotor so that one will have a more efficient braking surface that allows for smoother, safer braking, not to make it thinner (thus the minimum thickness standards dictated by law)<p>
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (JRL)

Yup - and life is like a box of chocolates... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (wdodge52)

Okay Forrest that was funny and clever!
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>wdodge52</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JRL:<p>Who says you aren't suppose to turn rotors? I'm sure you have a reason and the technical reference to back up what you say but why would a shop be allowed by law to turn them as long as they meet minimum thickness specifications? <p>Seems to me, the purpose of turning rotors is to smooth out the surface of said rotor so that one will have a more efficient braking surface that allows for smoother, safer braking, not to make it thinner (thus the minimum thickness standards dictated by law)<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>The fact is that most rotor "warping" is simply uneven deposits of brake pad material not actual warped rotors. <p>Flat sanding the discs and pads and a proper re-bed is usually all it takes to restore proper, vibration free, braking.
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (bdoon51)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bdoon51</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. what is the spec amd minimal thickness for rotors,,,have to turn at 36K miles with new pads?<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>By the way, when you say "have to turn at 36k miles with new pads", why do you say this?
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (bdoon51)

Another stupid question<br>or question from someone who is smart enough to know he isn't smart:<p>Is it okay when doing "bump-stops" in residential neighborhoods where there is no traffic but lots of stop signs (Columbia, MD) to sart off in 2nd gear ...skipping first and all that high RPM? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (wdodge52)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>wdodge52</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JRL:<p>Who says you aren't suppose to turn rotors? <p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>The manufacturers say so, have for years.<br>At 35K you should not need rotors anyway<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bdoon51</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another stupid question<br>or question from someone who is smart enough to know he isn't smart:<p>Is it okay when doing "bump-stops" in residential neighborhoods where there is no traffic but lots of stop signs (Columbia, MD) to sart off in 2nd gear ...skipping first and all that high RPM? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not the best of ideas. This engine has no torque right off the line plus you will probably wear out the clutch with premature wear!<br>Do you want a $2500 bill, thousands of miles sooner than you should need it?<br>If you think you are a good enough manual driver and you can do this without slipping the clutch, sure why not.<br>MOST people cannot do this properly.<br> MOST people cannot drive a stick and use a clutch properly
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (bdoon51)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bdoon51</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another stupid question<br>or question from someone who is smart enough to know he isn't smart:<p>Is it okay when doing "bump-stops" in residential neighborhoods where there is no traffic but lots of stop signs (Columbia, MD) to sart off in 2nd gear ...skipping first and all that high RPM? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>In my experience, if it is relatively flat and you don't come to a complete stop (still rolling somewhat), you can let out on the clutch with little to no throttle and it will not stall. Starting from a complete standstill in 2nd will require a tad bit of slippage.
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (I Roll)

You can start out in second, no real point to it. Much easier to get it rolling in 1st and shift to 2nd right away without revving out the first. Starting in second will put more strain on the clutch. MT R (at least mine) will start and keep rolling once you put it in 1st or 2nd gear upon slowly releasing the clutch without any gas.
 

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Re: Stupid Questions or questions from an admittedly R-stupido (xman03)

When I go over my local speed bumps, (we have several), I start out in 1st and usually shift to 2nd at 5-12 MPH or whatever low speed I happen to be at.<p>This is a learned "feel". <B>This cannot be taught</B>, you just have to know how to drive, how to shift your car, etc. <br>You have to feel and know what a car is doing.<br>I "got it" at a young age, most people never "get it"<br>This is not patting my back it just is. <p>I've been in more manual cars that I can remember either with owners or people looking at a car I have for sale and the<U>se people do not know how to shift</U>, period.<br>These are older people, not young kids. They go thru the motions, but in reality have no idea what they're doing. They shift too soon "lugging" an engine. they're jerky and not smooth.<br>I cringe, but usually keep my mouth shut unless they're actually hurting a car I may have for sale, then I politely ask them to pull over and I usually say something "let me show you how this car works" or something to that effect.
 
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