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Many people have reported stuck brakes after washing their cars or parking after a rain. Most have suggested it was the parking brake that got stuck. Knowing this, I parked my car (05V70R MT) without engaging the parking brake after I washed it last Sunday. Yesterday, I went to move it for the first time this week and it was stuck - big time! People have said that it will release if you go forwards, so I tried that without success. It took several minutes of trying in reverse and in 1st before it finally broke free. (My wife was very confused as to what was going on!...)<p>So here's the question - what is getting stuck?!?! It is NOT the parking brake - I had not engaged it at all! How much strain is being put on the clutch, transmission, Haldex, etc when tried to move against frozen axles? I could even hear a high-pitched whirring noise as I was giving more gas as if a differential (or somehting similar) was slipping since hte wheels would not turn. Thoughts? - what causes it and how bad is it to strain?<p>Albert
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (adalcanto)

My guess is that it is surface rust that is building up between the rotors and pads. <p>Wear on the vehicle can't be any worse than the 295 ft./lbs. of torque the vehicle experiences under full acceleration.
 

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I'm with Lee. I hardly put on my e-brake when I park but after driving thru the rain and then parking at a my brother's for two nights, it had a big "break" whe I went to move it. Startled me at first till I realized what the noise was from.
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (adalcanto)

You MUST drive it to heat up the breaks after washing it, couple trips around the block usually does it for me. That's the only way to dry out the pads and rotors to avoid this. Especially if you plan to let it sit for a week <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> (I think you said you washed it and then let it sit for a week without driving it, right?)<p>LTA<p>
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (adalcanto)

I take it alot of these R's that are experiencing this, have automatic transmissions. I use my e brake all the time because I have the 6 spd manual. I haven't had this issue yet.
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (adalcanto)

6MT for me....... happens frequently after washing.<p>This past time was so severe, that I actually got out of the car thinking that a brick or piece of wood had been placed behond one of the wheels.<p>I saw nothing and got back in the caR... it finally broke free with a decent amount of throttle. Is there any chance of permanent damage here? I normally park the car for 1-2 days after washing.
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (LTA)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LTA</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You MUST drive it to heat up the breaks after washing it, couple trips around the block usually does it for me. That's the only way to dry out the pads and rotors to avoid this. Especially if you plan to let it sit for a week <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> (I think you said you washed it and then let it sit for a week without driving it, right?)<p>LTA<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes - it sat for almost a week. I cycle to work so sometimes I only drive on the weekends. I had washed and parked in the past without a problem, but I guess I usually ended up moving the car within a day. I knew this could be an issue, and even considered driving it around. I didn't becuase I remembered people generally blaming it on the parking brake, so I thought I would avoid the problem by not setting it. It is amazing to me that enough corrosion can build up between the pad and rotor to stop the car cold even though the pad isn't acutally in contact with the rotor!<br>Has anyone ever had this happen with other cars? (I know I haven't). What is unique about the R's (or Volvos) that causes this?<p>Albert
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (LTA)

You can dry your brakes after washing without driving around the block. Just "ride" the brakes for a short distance. I mean apply the brakes with moderate pressure while applying enough gas in a low gear to overcome the braking. I do this in my driveway -- about 75' in reverse followed by 75' forward. Pay attention to what you are doing and don't get brake and accelerator petals confused (like some Audi drivers). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>This restores the nice shine to the brake disks and prevents the rusting action that freezes pad to disk.<br>
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (ljjones)

[(like some Audi drivers). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>That's funny. Good old Audi.
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (r_driver04)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>r_driver04</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[(like some Audi drivers). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>That's funny. Good old Audi.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I resemble that remark! (I'm an A4 driver) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Interestingly, my '01 A4 has an "unintended acceleration feature" programmed into the ECU. If you simultaneously apply brake and throttle for more than about two seconds, the ECU takes control and chops the throttle to idle! The time period seems to be just long enough to allow heel/toe throttle blips.<p>Do any other cars have this feature or is it strictly an Audi lawsuit legacy thing? I think our Volvos do not because I'm pretty sure I've heard the GT-equipped guys talking about brake-torquing for a good launch, which of course would not be possible if we had this feature.
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (r_driver04)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>r_driver04</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>That's funny. Good old Audi.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thread hijack alert!<p>You'd think that this was funny, until you've been in a car with this happening. My father had a 1985 Audi 5000S Turbo, and the unintended acceleration was NOT driver error. Thankfully he never had a problem with starting it up in the garage, but cruising on the highway the car would sometimes accelerate without pressing the throttle. Even when you took your foot off the gas, it would keep going. And no, the car had no cruise control so that wasn't it!<p>That car was in the shop more total hours than every R on this board combined for electrical problems. It was a great car but it had TONS of electrical gremlins. And talk about turbo lag, you could measure it with a sundial. Oh, and in 4 years, we were on our 3rd turbo when we got rid of it (thank God it was on lease). The turbos had a wee cooling problem. I remember my dad spitting on the intake pipe when we would get home and it evaporated in a nanosecond. And that wasn't even the turbo!<p>END OF THREAD HIJACK.<p>I have yet to experience the brake lock at all. When washing the car, the rotors certainly turn rusty right away! But I usually let the car dry about 1 hour, then pull it into the garage, scraping off the rust as I bring it in the 50'. Have never had a problem. <p>
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (Razzle-D)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Razzle-D</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">6MT for me....... happens frequently after washing.<p>This past time was so severe, that I actually got out of the car thinking that a brick or piece of wood had been placed behond one of the wheels.<p>I saw nothing and got back in the caR... it finally broke free with a decent amount of throttle. Is there any chance of permanent damage here? I normally park the car for 1-2 days after washing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ditto for me - sounded like something broke - all 4 rotors were stuck - its gotta hurt something <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>
 

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Re: Stuck brakes after wash - not what I thought it was. Ideas? (adalcanto)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adalcanto</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br> It is amazing to me that enough corrosion can build up between the pad and rotor to stop the car cold even though the pad isn't acutally in contact with the rotor!<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>But the pad <I>is</I> in contact with the rotor- not a lot of pressure but definitely in contact.
 
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