When my R is cold (e.g. not driven for a while), and I press down on all four corners, the shocks are quiet. However, once I start 'er up and drive, even for a minute, I notice that when I get out of the car and press on the front shocks (left and right), they make a groan/squeak noise (almost like the spring is rubbing against a sleeve/shaft). The rears, though, are always quiet. <p>Any thoughts as to why this happens? Is there something about the 4C/shock valving that changes the disposition of the front suspension when the car's been turned on? FYI, the front shock noise manifests itself after the car is turned off but is still warm. Once it's been sitting for a while , the shocks are quiet again. Weird...but figured I'd ask you all what you think (other than "so don't press down on the shocks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> )
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Re: Strange shock observations...input please (icebiker)
I think you will have no problems
I think you will have no problems
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well icebiker, I personally wouldn't worry about it, but this begs the question, HOW do you notice something like that?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ibanezplayer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well icebiker, I personally wouldn't worry about it, but this begs the question, HOW do you notice something like that? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Good question...it's because I'm obsessed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> with strange noises, especially if other cars of the same type do not make them. My front end sounds slightly different at 24K miles that it did when new. I've had my sway bar link rods replaced, and had the shocks, steering rack, subframe, suspension links, etc checked out a few times recently, and the dealer says all is tight and in good shape. But still have a subtle muted "bump/looseness" noise from the front end. Note that it doesn't <I>feel</I> loose, just makes this weird sound (that - of course - only <I>I</I> can hear when I ride with the dealer's tech <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> ). So, I started experimenting by trying to manually activate the suspension (pushing down on the car). That's when I discovered the noise I described above. It may or may not be the culprit. At one point, the dealer lubed the subframe bushings, which seems to help the matter, but as Helmut confirmed to me in an earlier post, these bushings are not grease fittings, so not sure if that's really a cure. Apparently my car doesn't fit the VIN range for the subframe bushing washer TNN either, so that isn't the culprit. <p>My biggest fear is 'living with it" until after the warranty expires, only to find out too late that a part was bad that could have otherwise been replaced under warranty. I'm just seeking a possible explanation, is all. <p>Thanks in advance for any theories <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ibanezplayer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well icebiker, I personally wouldn't worry about it, but this begs the question, HOW do you notice something like that? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Good question...it's because I'm obsessed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> with strange noises, especially if other cars of the same type do not make them. My front end sounds slightly different at 24K miles that it did when new. I've had my sway bar link rods replaced, and had the shocks, steering rack, subframe, suspension links, etc checked out a few times recently, and the dealer says all is tight and in good shape. But still have a subtle muted "bump/looseness" noise from the front end. Note that it doesn't <I>feel</I> loose, just makes this weird sound (that - of course - only <I>I</I> can hear when I ride with the dealer's tech <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> ). So, I started experimenting by trying to manually activate the suspension (pushing down on the car). That's when I discovered the noise I described above. It may or may not be the culprit. At one point, the dealer lubed the subframe bushings, which seems to help the matter, but as Helmut confirmed to me in an earlier post, these bushings are not grease fittings, so not sure if that's really a cure. Apparently my car doesn't fit the VIN range for the subframe bushing washer TNN either, so that isn't the culprit. <p>My biggest fear is 'living with it" until after the warranty expires, only to find out too late that a part was bad that could have otherwise been replaced under warranty. I'm just seeking a possible explanation, is all. <p>Thanks in advance for any theories <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
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I had all these recently. Took dealer about 3 or 4 tries when finally they found one axle loose. (BTW, they heard all the noises, had about 3 different ones) Fixed the axle, tightened down and aligned everything once again. <br>Finally I have one QUIET R, even with TME springs, sway bars and engine bushings<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Molral of the story, keep hounding the dealer, have them check the axles, (even if you had them already glued) make them WORK, they will find it.<br>Everything has to be in correct alignment (subframe etc) and torqued properly<br>If they can't find it have your service manager call mine
I had all these recently. Took dealer about 3 or 4 tries when finally they found one axle loose. (BTW, they heard all the noises, had about 3 different ones) Fixed the axle, tightened down and aligned everything once again. <br>Finally I have one QUIET R, even with TME springs, sway bars and engine bushings<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Molral of the story, keep hounding the dealer, have them check the axles, (even if you had them already glued) make them WORK, they will find it.<br>Everything has to be in correct alignment (subframe etc) and torqued properly<br>If they can't find it have your service manager call mine
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Please bear with me I know my drinking last night is no excuse. I was wrong and I am having some problems getting going today Look into this bushing (2nd picture) and the first overmount<p><A HREF="http://imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/6301/l3030136398feb2kz.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><br><A HREF="http://imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/9987/l3031104479sac6fo.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Helmut Ranff at 7:21 AM 2-10-2006</i>
Please bear with me I know my drinking last night is no excuse. I was wrong and I am having some problems getting going today Look into this bushing (2nd picture) and the first overmount<p><A HREF="http://imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/6301/l3030136398feb2kz.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><br><A HREF="http://imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/9987/l3031104479sac6fo.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Helmut Ranff at 7:21 AM 2-10-2006</i>
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Jim, Helmut, thanks much for the advice.<p>Helmut, what parts are those...are they part of the subframe assembly, or shock system (forgive my ignorance).<p>Jim, in case I need it, what dealer do you use and what is the service manager's name?<p>Thanks again<p>Greg
Jim, Helmut, thanks much for the advice.<p>Helmut, what parts are those...are they part of the subframe assembly, or shock system (forgive my ignorance).<p>Jim, in case I need it, what dealer do you use and what is the service manager's name?<p>Thanks again<p>Greg
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>icebiker</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">J<br>Jim, in case I need it, what dealer do you use and what is the service manager's name?<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>IM me for that
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>icebiker</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">J<br>Jim, in case I need it, what dealer do you use and what is the service manager's name?<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>IM me for that
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Greg-<p>Strut mount system and bushing - Right on the top when you look at your struts and these have caused creaks and rattels on Volvos from the beginning of mankind notably on the 850
Greg-<p>Strut mount system and bushing - Right on the top when you look at your struts and these have caused creaks and rattels on Volvos from the beginning of mankind notably on the 850
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