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I see all these posts about TME springs, eibachs, etc., but I haven't heard anything about a set of stiff springs that won't lower the car.<p>50% of my basis for buying this R was its capability in the 4 seasons, and having the sport body kit, I am already somewhat concerned about the winter, but if I decide to install any kind of common spring upgrade, I am going to be plowing snow. Is there such a spring that will provide a stiffer ride without lowering the car, AND won't screw up the SUM calibration?<p>
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop (phuz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>phuz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ...stiff springs that won't lower the car... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>IPD has "overload" springs for older Volvos. Maybe they could help...<p>
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop (phuz)

The TME springs were specifically developed for people that wanted a better ride, without much drop. <p>Their target was 1/2". On my car, the fronts lowered 1/4" and the back 3/4", which was PERFECT for me, since is eliminated 1/2" of the 3/4" additional fender gap in the rear. <p>Stance is perfect now, and the ride is great, especially with 4C turned off (mine is currently broke). In fact, I may not ever hook 4C up again. <p><IMG SRC="http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1418/1005060medium1ay.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop ("R" Kelly)

I remember there being a thread in the past where everyone compared ride heights. I couldn't find and don't remember if those measurements were for stock or aftermarket springs. What I'm getting at is if Rkelly's results are common and consistent among other TME users. If these springs only dropped the front 1/4", I would be much more prone to get them. Also, what is so bad about 4C other than the magical rear hop it produces? Actually, thats opening a whole other can of worms. I'll search for that one.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Also, what is so bad about 4C other than the magical rear hop it produces? Actually, thats opening a whole other can of worms. I'll search for that one.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I really like the 4C, except on the Autobahn (can not deal with high speeds, and Advanced is too stiff). That magical rear hop is not so magical at 160mph. <p><IMG SRC="http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9260/1005402medium0ss.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop (jdog)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If these springs only dropped the front 1/4", I would be much more prone to get them. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>EXACTLY!!!<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Also, what is so bad about 4C other than the magical rear hop it produces? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have often wondered this too. I want to leave 4C hooked up because I the availability to jump to a bumpless ride <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really like the 4C, except on the Autobahn (can not deal with high speeds, and Advanced is too stiff). That magical rear hop is not so magical at 160mph. <p><IMG SRC="http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9260/1005402medium0ss.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>...now thats what i call some "white" knuckle driving <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop (jdog)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> If these springs only dropped the front 1/4", I would be much more prone to get them.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you doubting my integrity or my ability to use a tape measure... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Seriously, prior to springs, front was 14.0" from center of hub to fender. After springs on for a week, it was 13.75". Back dropped from 14.75" TO 14.0".
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop ("R" Kelly)

ahah, not questioning the tape measure skills. You mentioned TME claims a drop of 1/2", while you experienced 1/4" front and 3/4" rear. I have the factory body kit, and want to lower the car as little as possible. Therefore, I would prefer the 1/4" drop in the front you experienced, and was wondering if anyone else with TME springs experienced the same as you. I know a 1/4" variation sounds small, but the scraping sound you'll hear on a nasty driveway wont. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahah, not questioning the tape measure skills. You mentioned TME claims a drop of 1/2", while you experienced 1/4" front and 3/4" rear. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>1/4" + 3/4" / 2 = 1/2" measured in center of car.<p>Pull up the other threads, one of the reasons I added the fronts (originally was only going to do rears) is because others reported minimal drop in front.
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop ("R" Kelly)

yes they do average out to 1/2". When you read that springs drop a car 1/2", you assume (or at least I do) that it's an even drop all around. In this case, I'm glad they lower the car unevenly. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> one of the reasons I added the fronts (originally was only going to do rears) is because others reported minimal drop in front. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks, thats what I wanted to hear <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop (phuz)

One possibility would be to get a coilover system where you could lower it in the summer and raise it in the winter.<p>I know Richard was going to work on it. Maybe you can talk to Evolve and find out if they know of a set out there. I believe they had one on their S60 or maybe it was their S40.<p>Good luck
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop (pie_ya)

Is the issue with the TME's a done deal? Dead Coils & coil protectors - or lack thereof. Are these 2 things no longer issues, meaning the dead coils are a design feature which is correct...and that the TME's are now coming with the proper diameter coil protectors, and not that tape-wrap?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Short Circuit</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the issue with the TME's a done deal? Dead Coils & coil protectors - or lack thereof. Are these 2 things no longer issues, meaning the dead coils are a design feature which is correct...and that the TME's are now coming with the proper diameter coil protectors, and not that tape-wrap?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>most of the tape wrap has come off both mine and KVBs, and neither of us have any noise from the rear springs. Don't think they ever needed it, think it was improper install that caused the problems for the one guy.<p>the dead coil issue was always bogus. First of all, they aren't dead, they take the initial weight of the car and compress. <p>Second, that is a more modern design IMO, as shown by the examples Scott Hart provided, and this, seen just two weeks ago at the Nurburgring.<p><IMG SRC="http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5592/100_5265Small.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Can't believe people who aren't coil engineers are more concernced about how springs look (especially since they aren't visible), than how they perform. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: stiffer springs without a clearance drop ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>most of the tape wrap has come off both mine and KVBs, and neither of us have any noise from the rear springs. Don't think they ever needed it, think it was improper install that caused the problems for the one guy.<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, most definately a bad install. I also pulled my chafe wrap off a few weeks ago........makes no difference, still completely silent. <p>Kevin
 
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