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Have a good friend that I go to the track with that has a 2005 STI. We ran a few straight-line races yesterday.

10mph - 110mph. Roll-on. The R pulls dead even with the STI, then the R at about 60-80mph gains a half car length
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. The STI regains this just over 100 & gains about 1/2 car length on the R (ended at 110 with STI 1/2 length in the lead). It was so even that we were shocked! Both my friend and I thought the STI would spank the R due to the weight issue.

0-100mph. STI pulls about 1.5 or 2 car lengths off the line (lower gearing) then the R hangs lock-step with the STI up to 100 (end of race), I might have regained a half length around 70 or so, but difficult to judge at 30 feet back.

60mph roll-on. R pulls 1/2 car length with both cars starting in 3rd gear up to about 90mph.

60mph in 5th gear. STI pulls a car length on the R, then they are even to about 90 or so.

Overall it was such a close match that I couldn't believe it. I did have about a 40 pound toolbox in my trunk, but in reality I wouldn't think that would change much. I was also running blizzaks and he was on all season tires.

I didn't think the R would be so close to an "all-out" performance car like the STI. For all practical purposes, so long as you aren't starting from a stop, the R is a dead-even race with the STI. Going from a stop, you'd better hope the STI driver screws up his launch and you hit it perfect!

I'll let you know how they do on the track next year when we race each other down at Mid American on the 2.2 mile roadcourse!
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-Rick
 
Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (gsxrgessler)

IIRC, STI has much lower gearing so top end isn't as strong as launch.
 
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Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (needsdecaf)

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Quick, someone please find me an emoticon of a dead horse being beaten.

Arrrrrrgh!

Sorry....this will have to do for now:

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Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (MagoonR)

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IIRC, STI has much lower gearing so top end isn't as strong as launch.

correct.

top end on the STI and EVO is WEAK!
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Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (needsdecaf)

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Quick, someone please find me an emoticon of a dead horse being beaten.

Arrrrrrgh!

here's one.....

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Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (MagoonR)

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Sorry....this will have to do for now:

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For a second there I thought it was Steve logging in under a different name....
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btw, is he banned?
 
Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (blackTT55)

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btw, is he banned?

My guess, he's still active.
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Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (gsxrgessler)

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I'll let you know how they do on the track next year when we race each other down at Mid American on the 2.2 mile roadcourse!

2.2 miles suggests short(er) straights. I'll predict that once the weight difference comes into play on braking and turning, not just aceeleration, the Subie will beat you. My 115 HP VW ITB car can equal a chipped R at WGI, the reason... weight.
 
Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (IwantaS60R)

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here's one.....

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Thanks! I'll have to bookmark that!

I'm just waiting for someone to say that there's no way that the R can keep up with an STI and for the whole argument to start over. Who was the guy in Hell who pushed the rock up the hill only for it to roll down the other side? Sysyphus?
 
Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (IwantaS60R)

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here's one.....

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seriously...was this topic brought up before? EVER?
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I would have thought the R would have pulled away around 100 MPH.
Seems like most of the STi's around here are modded in one way or another. I don't care for street light-to- street light racing (doesn't matter if its an STi or Ford Escort), but I see some awefully fast STi's out there (usually driven by some smug punk).
 
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Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (JimLill)

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2.2 miles suggests short(er) straights. I'll predict that once the weight difference comes into play on braking and turning, not just acceleration, the Subie will beat you. My 115 HP VW ITB car can equal a chipped R at WGI, the reason... weight.

I have a gutted 1986 corrola GTS with 210rwhp.... that this will pwn my R on a track any day of the week.
 
Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (R_Rated)

The S60R and V70R are like an anvil made for shaping steel. They are heavy but in the hands of crazy Volvo enthusiast who has no fear will beat many cars on the track. But a lightweight sport compact it will not beat. It is pure science
 
Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (Helmut Ranff)

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will beat many cars on the track.

To me track is a circuit... some here interchange track and strip, meaning the latter... a dragstrip
 
Re: STI vs. S60 R Roll-on.... (phuz)

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correct.

top end on the STI and EVO is WEAK!
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very true...5th gear on my evo sucks...these babies really aren't made for all out speed...more about going fast between and in the corners. Unfortunatly not many Evo/STI owners understand that
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Well I am coming from a Sti and I can tell u that stock for stock ( i had my sti stock fopr 1 month ) and my R stock for 2 weeks they are pretty close. But I has headers . 3 " downpipe . 3" exhaust and Ecutek tune and dynod 315 whp on a awd dyno stock I hit 232 my stock R dynod 228 whp on same dyno. Now my R has a exhaust Bsr and intake and dynos 278 whp on that same dyno. Most sti's have a TBE exhaust and tune atleast and that gives them 300 whp and they will rape a R anyday with jyts those simple mods
 
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