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Hello Guys I am thinking about getting spacer for the rear of my car only, and I was wondering what size would you guys recommend, and if you have picture of your car with spacers that would be fantastic.<p>I am thinking at least 15 mm, maybe more, but not sure... I just want my tires as much as possible aligned with the outer part of the wheel well. I definitely do not want them sticking out more than the frame.<p>I am sorry if I am not using the correct lingo, I hope you all understand <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> - Thanks<br>
 

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Re: SPACER, what size? Pics? (dicostal)

Getting spacers, of course, will mean extended wheel bolts. These are not easy to come by in: a) a chrome finish like OEM; and b) 19 mm head size. If you don't object to either of these things, then by all means. <p>I run 5mm H&R spacers in the summer to kick the rear track out a little and I can still use my chrome bolts.
 

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Re: SPACER, what size? Pics? (t5mmmm)

thanks for the info... <br>I am tempted going with the 20 mm in the rear, but I am afraid it may be a bit much. I was hopping input from someone who has done this, and perhaps they could post a pic.<br>The none chrome bolt could be an issue, but I will call ipd tomorrow to see what my option are. <p>Thanks
 

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Re: SPACER, what size? Pics? (t5mmmm)

does anyone know what size are the extended bolt's head is?<p>is it 19 mm the same as stock?<p>Also where is the best place to get the H&R spacer... <p>Thank you
 

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Re: SPACER, what size? Pics? (t5mmmm)

Hello T5mmmmmmmmmm, lol<br>Thank you so much for your reply. You made me do some good researching... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><br>Anyway the best price for the spacers is from shox.com<br>And you are right about both the chrome finish and bolt head size <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I could live perhaps with the non chrome finish, heck I was thinking I would paint it chrome my self... but the different bolt size sucks... basically to get the 19 mm bolt I would have to run 25 mm spacers. Those come with the 19mm bolts.<p>So I will take your adivce and use just the 5mm spacer in the rear, so the Chrome bolts are fine I wont have an issue?<p>Thank you again.<p>Where is Wagoneer when you need him <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: SPACER, what size? Pics? (dicostal)

stock bolts are 12x1.75 if that's what you're wondering. There are tons of companies who make extended wheel bolts, just tough to find in chrome finish and especially tough to find in a tuner lug style (or tight clearance style). <p>I'm going to need to know what wheels you're running so I know the offset.<p>I've run many spacers on my wagon, here's what I found. With my cetus (52mm offset), I ran 15mm spacers with extended bolts (total of a 37mm offset). I had weenie 195/60/15 tires on these. This didn't even come close to putting them at the outer edge of the fender, it just made the car look less squatted at the rear and a little more aggressive. With 15mm spacers the rear track is pretty much equal to the front track. With my tethys (49mm offset) I ran 10mm spacers with extended lug bolts (tota of a 39mm offset) and they looked about the same as the cetus but I had a wider tires - 225/45/17s - so they looked more aggresive and more pushed out. Right now I'm running 225/35/18s on my Enkeis. They have an offset of 38mm and I'm running 8.5mm spacers on them (total of a 29.5mm offset). I managed to keep my chrome tuner lugs because they were still in the 5-6 thread count safety cushion. This is the most aggresive you can go in the rear without extreme rubbing. My tires still rub when I have two or more people in the back, but the wheels look fantastic. When looking at the side, they almost look in line with the fenders. You'll never get the wheel perfectly aligned with the outer most edge of the fender just because of the wheel well design on these cars. <p>So in other words, with a 225 tire, the MOST aggressive you can go is 30mm and you'll probably still rub a bit with a big load in the back. I'd say a safe bet with 225 tires is a 32mm offset. <p>In your case, assuming you're running OEM wheels which usually have wimpy offsets, I'd recommend 20mm offset with extended lugs just to get the stance you seem to be going for. If you're running a properly sized 215 tire or smaller than you shouldn't be rubbing at all. But post what wheels you have before deciding to go with 20s. <p>To your above post, 5mm spacers are usually used for correcting rubbing. You won't notice a difference in appearance with them unless you're really looking for it. <p>And I know most people say that 850/X70s have different sized wheel wells but other people have also come to the same conclusions I have. I know people running the same offsets as me on V70s and S70s and have the same outcome. <p>And again, it depends on the width of the wheels, tire manufacturer etc. Lots of things come into factor with fitting spacers. <p>Hope this helped <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Sorry for any grammar/spelling mistakes; just got home from the bar <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: SPACER, what size? Pics? (Wagoneer)

Wagoneer, thank you so much for your reply <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><br>I am running 17 inch Volvo Comets with 215/45/17 tires with H&R springs.<p>I would love to go to 15mm or perhaps 20mm, however the H&R extended lugs have a 17mm head and I really do not want to buy a new key, it just makes it inconvenient.<br>Do you think I can use the stock bolts with 15 mm spacers?<br>Another option would be to go to the 25mm spacers, those come with 19mm bolts, however will I have rubbing?<p>I do not know what the offset for my wheel is though.<p>Thank you so much.
 

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I wouldn't go with 25mm spacees. That would give you an offset of 24mm which would definately cause tons of rubbing. The wheel won't even spin with passengers in the car. I'd go with 15mm with the comets with h&r springs. That will give you and offset of 34 which is aggressive but still in the safe zone.
 

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With the 15mm would I have to still buy the extended bolts?<br>I will buy 5mm for the front too<p>Also is it possible to use both 15 and the 5 together? Just wandering if that is an option at all to use them both so then I would have 20mm spacer...<p>Thank you again
 

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All those are ideas are bad <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Never use multiple spacers. And ALWAYS use extended bolts with anything larger than 5mm spacers as a rule of thumb. I'm still using stock bolts on my 8.5mm spacers because i was lucky and they just barely make 5-6 threads still. <p>An easy thing would be to switch to a stud kit. It's a lot easier to find extended studs. Search Ebay and you should find some.
 

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Thank you Mate, you rock!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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One more questions if I get the largest bolts for the 25mm can I still use them for the 15mm spacers? I like these bolts as they have the 19mm heads.<br>I am thinking I cannot, but I figure I would ask.<br>Thanks<br>
 

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I believe H&R uses the same length extended bolts up to the 20mm, then longer ones for 25, 30 etc. I'm not sure how deep the threads go in the hub, but I'm guessing they'll work. Shoot them an email to make sure as I'm sure they have that info. <p>Why are you so set on a 19mm head? A new Key costs nothing.
 

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Re: SPACER, what size? Pics? (dicostal)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dicostal</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hello T5mmmmmmmmmm, lol<br>Thank you so much for your reply. You made me do some good researching... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><br>Anyway the best price for the spacers is from shox.com<br>And you are right about both the chrome finish and bolt head size <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I could live perhaps with the non chrome finish, heck I was thinking I would paint it chrome my self... but the different bolt size sucks... basically to get the 19 mm bolt I would have to run 25 mm spacers. Those come with the 19mm bolts.<p>So I will take your adivce and use just the 5mm spacer in the rear, so the Chrome bolts are fine I wont have an issue?<p>Thank you again.<p>Where is Wagoneer when you need him <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>dicostal,<p>We offer Zinc plated, 19mm hex head wheel bolts for your car. They are meant for use with 5mm wheel spacers (PN VP-017616):<p><A HREF="http://www.vivaperformance.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=78_93&products_id=48" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vivaperformance.com...id=48</A>
 

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Re: SPACER, what size? Pics? (George @ ViVA)

George!!!! I wish I had known <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I've place the order Saturday. <br>I would have loved to have used these bolts instead...<p>Anyway this is good info for everyone here.<p>Thank you<br>
 

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Re: SPACER, what size? Pics? (dicostal)

I've got the Spacer I will try to take some pics tomorrow to post them.<p>So far the only rubbing I heard from the rear was when I hit a hump on the road at a decent speed.<p>Thanks
 
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