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did a search and found a few threads, but couldnt find any solutions [or maybe i missed them]<p><br>mine's had the sag from pulling too far into a parking stall and catching the bumper on the stop, pulling out the middle like on these cars:<p><IMG SRC="http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/5942/1005430medium4fl.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/5152/bustedye2.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p>what are my options? just drilling a wood or plastic screw into the bottom of the bumper? I've been working on my car a lot lately [prepping for mods, and just because ive neglected it too much <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">] and want to fix this as i's been like that for over 8 months now, especially since i want to replace the front splitters that broke off, and get my mouldings color-keyed in the coming months.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Cicada at 9:54 AM 8-7-2006</i>
 

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Dont park your bumper on the pavement? Thats what I drum into my wifes head on the odd occassion she is allowed to take my baby.
 

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Re: Solutions for front bumper sag? (Cicada)

I did the same thing ( <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> ) and my quick and easy solution was two zip ties. It took care of the 90% of the sag and is invisible unless you're down on your hands and knees.<p>Regards,<p>Derek<br>
 

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Re: Solutions for front bumper sag? (Cicada)

There are really 3 solutions to this problem:<p>1. (Most Expensive but only way to get it tp be perfect) Buy a new bumper.<p>2. (Easy and not too work intensive) Prop up the sagging section closer to the original height and use a heat gun/hairdryer to help re-mold it. I did this with fairly good success. It doesn't make it like new and it will sag a little, but it is imperceptible to anyone who doesn't look for it. <p>3. (Easy as well, but requires drilling) Drill some holes and purchase a bracket that will be mounted on the inner section of the bumper. You basically will screw the sagging section to the upper part of the lower valence, and the bracket will keep the sagging section in place permanently. You really can't see the screws from the underside if you mount the bracket back far enough (so I have seen form the pics posted by whomever did this fix).
 

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easy fix. get a small piece of metal or hard plastic...something shaped like a paint stirring stick...about that thick/wide/long etc.<p>then get under your car and use some short screws and screw part of the stick to the drooping part, then screw the other end to soemthing under the car that is fixed, but soft enough to let you screw itno it.<p>my rear bumper sagged, and I did this cheap/hack fix on the rear bumper and it's held for a LONG time. it's a hack type fix, but the car is so low and the location fo the fix means no one can see it unless they crawl under your car.<p>or get na EVOLVE front end to go with the rest of your body kit.<p>the evolve kit is actually NOT as low as the sport kit...so you'll be less liekly to scuff it.<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CyberRacer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont park your bumper on the pavement? Thats what I drum into my wifes head on the odd occassion she is allowed to take my baby.</TD></TR></TABLE>i havent done that in a while, but the thing about the bumper is that it's high enough to clear a parking stop, but when you pull back out of the spot, the bumper will catch it..<p>my solution recently has been to not pull into the parking space too far, and basically have half my car sticking out into the aisle, or just reversing into parking spots.
 

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Re: Solutions for front bumper sag? (bb vign)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bb vign</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did the same thing ( <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> ) and my quick and easy solution was two zip ties. It took care of the 90% of the sag and is invisible unless you're down on your hands and knees.<p>Regards,<p>Derek<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>ill have to try that.
 

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Re: Solutions for front bumper sag? (Cicada)

Hey Cicada,<br>Sorry for the off topic, but I drove by your next of the woods on our trip from Los Angeles to Prescott Arizona. It was 111 degrees on the R's thermometer!!!! Holy cow it was hot. <br>Conrad
 

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Re: Solutions for front bumper sag? (steamboatsig)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>steamboatsig</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Cicada,<br>Sorry for the off topic, but I drove by your next of the woods on our trip from Los Angeles to Prescott Arizona. It was 111 degrees on the R's thermometer!!!! Holy cow it was hot. <br>Conrad</TD></TR></TABLE>indeed. it hasn't been under 100F in a while <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><p>by 10am it's usually already 105 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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the summer HEAT is a BIG reason why I finally MOVED out of the Palm Springs area and went inland...closer to San Diego.<p>temps here are sooooooooooooo much cooler. it's nice to be able to go outside for a walk after work and not sweat/drip to death.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Shove a big screw in there. That's how I keep my rear bumper from sagging near the wheel wells. 10 000km and solid as a rock.
 

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Re: Solutions for front bumper sag? (Cicada)

The wife just came home this past weekend with the same problem ... drove too far over a parking stop and caught the bumper on the re-bar support while backing out. It also popped a couple rivuts in the wheel well. Yes, I was upset given several past lectures on the low nose on the R and not pulling all the way into parking stalls ... needless to say my 'distress' wasn't well received when I walked out into the drive way for us to drive to a restaurant, saw the bumper hanging down, and shouted "God D**n it! What the hell happened to the bumper?"<p>I guess I over-reacted a bit ... <br>
 

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Re: Solutions for front bumper sag? (dawghouse)

Sorry to hear that. My wife would never drive my car- can't drive a stick and too many "rules". That works for me.
 

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Re: Solutions for front bumper sag? (dawghouse)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dawghouse</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The wife just came home this past weekend with the same problem ... drove too far over a parking stop and caught the bumper on the re-bar support while backing out. It also popped a couple rivuts in the wheel well. Yes, I was upset given several past lectures on the low nose on the R and not pulling all the way into parking stalls ... needless to say my 'distress' wasn't well received when I walked out into the drive way for us to drive to a restaurant, saw the bumper hanging down, and shouted "God D**n it! What the hell happened to the bumper?"<p>I guess I over-reacted a bit ... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Guys don't yell at the girls, just make them promise to back into any space with one of those damn tire stop blocks near it.<br>I like the sound of the heat gun and plastic tie fix as my previous R received the screw fix (be careful not to hit the inter cooler) with so so success.<br>Jim
 

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Re: Solutions for front bumper sag? (surfsd)

Well, I think the other part of this is that cars as a moving piece of art versus a practical means of moving from point A to point B are just a different sphere of priority for guys versus gals. For my wife, it's definitely just a mode of transportation.<p>A couple weeks ago I was at a soccer tournament and we drove separately. I'm hanging out at the field (or 'pitch' if you're English) as the wife drives up in the R and proceeds to parallel park right behind one of the goals. I urgently called her on her cell and asked her to drive around to the parking lot instead. This was not a popular request ... the parking lot was a 200 yard hike. I explained later that right before she arrived the car behind her had taken three direct hits to the door panel on missed shots on goal ... she just said I could go park my 'precious' car in the boondocks next time. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Try this...easy, cheap, works great

Cicada, I had this happen to me a while ago...my solution is in these threads<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=41863" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=41863</A> <br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=49298&postid=447619#447619" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...47619</A><p>However, in a nutshell, here you go...<p>a) Above the lower edge of the bumper is a plastic plate with lattice-like texture. <p>b) Drill a hole in the bumper and in the plastic plate (being careful that it didn't come close to the radiator that's above the plastic plate).<p>c) Insert a plastic or rachet rivet (looks like a screw, but instead of a continuous thread, it has a series of ridges that angle downward. You can buy them at any autoparts store. They are used for body trim, upholstery, and such. here's a link to a pic...https://secure.microplastics.com/detail.asp?part=rachetfasteners&fam=panlfast<p>d) push the plastic rivet through the hole in the bumper and the plastic plate, and it will pull the bumper up with it. The ridges in the rivet prevent it from pulling back down.<p>e) paint the rivet's head to match the bumper's color, and you're done. Being made of plastic, there's no chance of rust or other complications. <p>I did mine well over a year ago, and it's still holding fine. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>
 

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Re: Try this...easy, cheap, works great (icebiker)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>icebiker</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cicada, I had this happen to me a while ago...my solution is in these threads<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=41863" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=41863</A> <br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=49298&postid=447619#447619" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...47619</A><p>However, in a nutshell, here you go...<p>a) Above the lower edge of the bumper is a plastic plate with lattice-like texture. <p>b) Drill a hole in the bumper and in the plastic plate (being careful that it didn't come close to the radiator that's above the plastic plate).<p>c) Insert a plastic or rachet rivet (looks like a screw, but instead of a continuous thread, it has a series of ridges that angle downward. You can buy them at any autoparts store. They are used for body trim, upholstery, and such. here's a link to a pic...https://secure.microplastics.com/detail.asp?part=rachetfasteners&fam=panlfast<p>d) push the plastic rivet through the hole in the bumper and the plastic plate, and it will pull the bumper up with it. The ridges in the rivet prevent it from pulling back down.<p>e) paint the rivet's head to match the bumper's color, and you're done. Being made of plastic, there's no chance of rust or other complications. <p>I did mine well over a year ago, and it's still holding fine. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br></TD></TR></TABLE>sounds like a clean way to do it; ill have to look for those rivets -- and i assume you buy them a slight larger than the hole you drilled that way the serrations can't pull out once they're in?<p>i got under the car today and i saw the honey-comb/lattice like texture you're talking about; what sized hole and rivets did you use? [if you can recall]
 

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Re: Try this...easy, cheap, works great (Cicada)

I, too, suffered from bumper cover sag and opted for the "quick and dirty" repair, i.e. drill holes through the cover and "lattice" thingy. What I found was that the sag was so severe, the normal plastic fasteners icebiker is talking about wouldn't hold - the little plastic ridges were too flimsy. Probably could have tried to heat-gun the cover first, but wasn't set up to do that, so I dug through my workshop drawers and found some plastic drywall anchor screws like these:<p><IMG SRC="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/gdbccb/drywallanchors.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>worked great and because they're plastic, no worries about drilling into rad. They screw in flush and are essentially invisible unless you're lying on the ground in front of the bumper.<p>
 

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Re: Try this...easy, cheap, works great (canuck-R)

i think im gonna go out and try a heat gun with those plastic rivets -- if that fails i can get the plastic anchor screws...
 
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