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i went to check it out, hes got a new site but his stage 1 BSR kits for the s60 2.5t went up $300. <p>42% inflation rate seems a little much!
 

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i wonder if the original price was an introductory or teaser deal... or if it just wasn't economically viable for him to maintain that.<p>Unfortunately at only 50 bucks less that EST or Viva it may be hard for a new vendor to gain a foothold.<p>In my mind, his price point should be 850.
 

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i should have got it with my refund money, now i have to spend wedding money in Oct!<p>lol
 

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he sucked ass just like the crap products he sells from VMS . <p>stay far far away from him shady at best
 

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Just went to the Vector auto tuning website to see what all the fuss was about, and now it's a Saab tuning company. No reference to Volvo at all.<p>Am I missing something?<p>What gives? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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Hey Chilled man,<p>I dont sell VMS products, and if you really look in to it you would see that, I have been bashed around Volvo speed from some Aliens, and that made me just to take stand of against lot of the members there, and i want to say ones for all, i don't sell VMS parts and i don't work at all with them, and have never done that. i did a mistake and used couple pictures from his home page and that made you guys to judge me, but you know what, i don't need Volvo speed to have a successful business. It is just a shame you guys don't know what you have missed out. <br>I Came to this forum because i see them as more mature and serious people and not spoiled 16-17 years brats that opens there mouth with comments before they even research the facts.<br>If you guys have asked me i would have told you then, that i did not have any relation with VMS.<br>Also you guys was bashing other companies but all of you was talking good about IPD becuse one of the employee's is a Volvo speed member, i see him all the time having group buys and advertise products without anybody asking him to be a vendor.<br>How ever i made my choice and i saw more better serious people at Swedespeed then Volvo speed. So please keep your comments to your self and act as an adult.<br>I am the BSR Importer for Californa and i have my own products and i don't need to buy or sell from anybody else specially a company as VMS is.<p>Mike<br>Vector Auto Tuning
 

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I am selling volvo products but as you can see i am rebuilding the home page and it would come up shortly. as you maybe know BSR have Tuning Products for Volvo Saab Audi and VW.
 

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These guys crack me up, they have it out for you Mike. lol. <br>We should be lucky to have vendors who want to sell products for our cars. And competition is good, keeps prices low and product quality high. I have heard the praises of IPD for ages and that's fine, they are a good company but they shouldn't be the only company selling performance products for Volvos.<p>I can't imagine the patience it must take to be a retailer and put up with attitude from customers. Give the guy a break and buy something from him, then you can have an honest opinion.
 

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edit :<p><br>I will wait <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>And trust me we need more selection of vendors . <p>Well I dont you guys might <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>But hey prove me wrong that would be fantastic <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><i>Modified by Chilled Man at 9:14 AM 6-19-2009</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Chilled Man at 9:16 AM 6-19-2009</i>
 

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i bought the intake from Mike and he was very responsive to my emails and i got my product in a weeks time cause he was stocking up from sweden, but there wasn't a lack of communication or anything like that with me...i was a satisfied customer ...i plan to buy a few things from him. if i get ripped then lesson learn..but so far for me Mike has been a stand up guy and i understand that he's just starting and BSR is in sweden so it takes time....i wouldnt bash dude..
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Vector Auto Tuning</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Chilled man,<p>I dont sell VMS products, and if you really look in to it you would see that, I have been bashed around Volvo speed from some Aliens, and that made me just to take stand of against lot of the members there, and i want to say ones for all, i don't sell VMS parts and i don't work at all with them, and have never done that. i did a mistake and used couple pictures from his home page and that made you guys to judge me, but you know what, i don't need Volvo speed to have a successful business. It is just a shame you guys don't know what you have missed out. <br>I Came to this forum because i see them as more mature and serious people and not spoiled 16-17 years brats that opens there mouth with comments before they even research the facts.<br>If you guys have asked me i would have told you then, that i did not have any relation with VMS.<br>Also you guys was bashing other companies but all of you was talking good about IPD becuse one of the employee's is a Volvo speed member, i see him all the time having group buys and advertise products without anybody asking him to be a vendor.<br>How ever i made my choice and i saw more better serious people at Swedespeed then Volvo speed. So please keep your comments to your self and act as an adult.<br>I am the BSR Importer for Californa and i have my own products and i don't need to buy or sell from anybody else specially a company as VMS is.<p>Mike<br>Vector Auto Tuning</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is a hilarious post for many reasons:<br>1) This is swedespeed, not volvospeed. Yet you say this <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How ever i made my choice and i saw more better serious people at Swedespeed then Volvo speed. So please keep your comments to your self and act as an adult.</TD></TR></TABLE> Yes ChilledMan is a <u><b>RESPECTED</u></b> member of both. There are few people that volvos better than he.<br>2) calling potential customers <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> spoiled 16-17 years brats </TD></TR></TABLE> is not a good way to run a business.<br>3) An IPD staff person is a member of this site, but their reputation is based on over <b> 45 years</b> of selling volvo parts. Its nice they are <u>active</u> members here but its a bonus to their already stellar reputation.<p>I personally am always <b>supportive</b> yet <u>skeptical</u> of new businesses. You guys have a high cost of entry competing against three extremely established and liked companies - EuroSport Tuning, ViVa, and of course IPD. The internets have the power to bring companies like Evolve essentially to their knees when poor products are made and to get Volvo Cars of North America involved when a poor company (VMS) is using their name illegally. <br>No one gets "bashed" here without a reason. I personally expressed skepticism over your business for a couple reasons:<br>1) differing stories to different people over prices<br>2) the use of BSR when many other suppliers are dropping it<br>3) the slow response time when I emailed you (i understand you may have been having some medical issues, i hope they are resolved or that information was incorrect)<p>It seems like you are a legitimate guy looking to make something take off, I applaud you for that. That said, BE READY, if you are not perfect in your products, your price, and especially your user support you will face a tough time in this market.<p>I wish you the best of luck but would suggest you treat members on ALL forums better. There simply are not enough volvo performance people for you to pick and choose who you treat well.
 

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wait I am respected ............. <p>thats disturbing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bender</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p> <B>The internets</B> have the power to bring companies like Evolve essentially to their knees </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wait, the <B>internets</B><I></I>??? You mean there is more than just the one? Where do I find these other internets, I am intrigued <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jstro</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait, the <B>internets</B><I></I>??? You mean there is more than just the one? Where do I find these other internets, I am intrigued <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><br>You silly old fart. Get with the times! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW, Paul, it's "teh internets." Get it right, will ya?! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I've been keeping an eye on vector's website and what has been said about this shop on this forum.<p>(I'm anxious to see it up and running again with all the parts listings for Volvo)<p>Regardless, I was really excited to see a local performance presence for Volvo/Saab in my backyard (San Diego), since I'm anxious about buying a car I can't get local support for, when it comes to aftermarket/tunes, etc. So, a BSR rep in my town, I'm all for it!!!<p>Hope this business works out well and the swedespeed community are served with satisfaction....<p>But like what's been said in so many words, be prepared for the onslaught of problems should service/support/pricing get hazy/questionable/or void. Do your utmost to keep people satisfied, wherever it's financially/emotionally possible. <p>Having the respect of the guys on these forums is absolutely paramount.<p><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Mike, don't let chilledman get you all fussy, he just had his feelings hurt one too many times, almost hard to believe he got permabanned from one of the other volvo forums, eh?<p>Chilled Man, i am pretty sure 90% of this s60 forum doesn't know anything about VMS.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Impulse922</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mike, don't let chilledman get you all fussy, he just had his feelings hurt one too many times, almost hard to believe he got permabanned from one of the other volvo forums, eh?<p>Chilled Man, i am pretty sure 90% of this s60 forum doesn't know anything about VMS.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>ehh that one is just filled with dirty uneducated hippies. <p>oh I know no one will argue to stay away from VMS . <p>simpley make vms buying guide for you guys here. <p>Paypal Terrry money <br>Someone in his family dies or get sick . <br>You call and threaten to sue . <br>He says sorry we have been busy will get right on it <br>You never see your product<br>Terry never gives you your money back <br>you fill lawsuit and never see a penny . <p>Now there is the other side of VMS <br>basically its all the same minus you get some pile of crap in the mail that is not what you paid for and you sue and you dont get your money back either. <p>Thats your buying experence with VMS <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Now when someone bought a FPR on VS that was the same basic response from vector till what the guy bought finally showed up a few months later . <br>Also Vector had items / pics highjacked from VMS website.<p>So the reason why I will wait and hopefully be proved wrong <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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Hey Bender, let me ask you some questions!<p>1) differing stories to different people over prices <br>2) the use of BSR when many other suppliers are dropping it<br>3) the slow response time when I emailed you (i understand you may have been having some medical issues, i hope they are resolved or that information was incorrect)<p>1. What stories and what prices are you talking about?<p>2. Other Dropping BSR? I really don't understand that, becuse they are one of the leading companies in Europe, they are also the company that tunes Koenigsegg super car, works with Improved emissions on Cars for many country's, Have a world wide dealer program, smart enough to produce a programmer that other tuners bought to use and names it under there own name, You should go to BSR home page and read there story and what they are doing, <p>My choice of BSR is that potentional is large and the knowlage is Larger, but BSR stands for safety and functional product's, they cant support lot of customers ideas of what they want and wish to do with there cars specially so fare away from Sweden as we are. I am greatfull that they are as the are, becuse down the line i would have a lot of customers coming back to me with issues like transmissions and other stuff. I want to sell and represent a product and a company that is safe and functional, then a product that wouldent destroy your $30.000 car after a while. I do understand that it is a lot of requests of different parts for more power and i like it my self, but i have to be realistic in some cases. All Cars have a limit of what you could do with them, but as humans and owners of our cars we don't have that. My Job is to try to help out as much i can, <p> i have also helped Volvo speed customers out with there problems when they ordered chip tuning from terry VMS and got ripped off, he got Upsolute chip tuning for free just because i talked to Upsolute my self and told him whats happened. i just could have sold him 2 new chip tunes as many other tuners would have done. But i said that he have suffered enough at it is, and because VMS was representing Upsolute, Rene had to clear it with him and save Upsolutes image, (Rene Owner of Upsolute USA) VMS destroyed the ecu Box and sended it back to the owner without any Chip tunes. He also paid over $1200 for the chips to Terry VMS.<p>3.Slow respond time, In what matter? i always answer my e mails as fast i can, and i don't recall that you have e mailed me in any matter. So please could you remind me !!<p>And Bender, you forgot i was bashed and i did not bash anybody in any Forum.<p>Medical issues? I did not have any medical issues, My father all most died after a Heart attack and i had to leave for Sweden, that was why i was gone for 2 weeks.<p>How ever i came to this forums to talk to guys that have the same interest as i do, i did not come to this forums to play any games or to be disrespected in any way, i offered my know how and services specially in your favor, and How amazing is it, when you have only some guys that is rude and disrespectful but mostly of the members are really great. i am Talking about Volvo speed. i have customers from Volvo speed and by what they said, they cant mention that they are buying parts from me without been attacked by some members, i do understand that lot of members are favoring IPD, that is okay, i know that IPD is a great company. But how ever, all test that have been made in Europe between Tuners, and to include TME, BSR, Power chip and many others, BSR have better results then TME and power chip, (and that was actually tested by an Independed Tuning Magazine)<br>many Tuners Are taking out as much they can from the Engine, but they are forgetting all other aspects in Tuning, as Transmission, Missions, drive line, and so on.<p>You said: It seems like you are a legitimate guy looking to make something take off, I applaud you for that. That said, BE READY, if you are not perfect in your products, your price, and especially your user support you will face a tough time in this market.<p>I am a serious guy and i love what i am doing, My products are perfect and i am here to support any one that needs help even with just make there choice of the best products for there Cars.<p>I am a really straight forward guy, as many of you that have bought parts from me knows, i dont play games and i started this because of my huge interest in Volvos and Performance, I work with common sense. If it is possible i would tell, you if it is not possible i would tell you also, I am not here for a quick sale i am here to make friends and to be of help if i can.<p>Also about the comment that you said,<br> Quote; I wish you the best of luck but would suggest you treat members on ALL forums better. There simply are not enough Volvo performance people for you to pick and choose who you treat well.<p>i am 47 years old and i learned something when i was growing up, That was that you treat people as you are treated, in this case, i did not start anything, i was trying to be helpful, i was not selling anything,i answered questions as i got them, and then suddenly, few guys from Volvo speed attacked me with rude comments and attacking me for stuff i don't know anything about. So i still don't know how i came in to this mess, was it because of couple pictures??<br>That is a week way of having a reason to do what they did. What about communication, like asking me questions about them before assuming things, if they asked i would have answered.<p>You was talking about EuroSport Tuning, ViVa, I have seen comments about them to, No body is perfect, but i know if something would happened and i would mess up, i would always have the best customer service and fix what ever happened.<p>So please lets start again and clear this mess up and start concentrate on more interesting things like why we are here on this forum, to talk Volvo and Performance.<p>Mike<p>
 

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<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>just a suggestion to you,(if you havent already done so)<p>It seems as if you made everything pretty clear in that one post, if you are still a member of volvospeed, i would make a thread over there, explaining your temporary and sudden leave of absence, then just sort of let them know you are here to stay and if anyone has any problems to pm/email you instead of spreading "hearsay"(that seems like what gave you a bad name in the beginning).<p>you may prefer not to, but i would for the sake of business.
 
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