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I have been in the market for a S60R for a while and for some reason I am not finding the deals that people are talking about in here.....<p>Here is what I have so far and please let me know if there is something I am missing:<p>2006 Sonic Blue A SR, Mettalic Paint, Black / Blue Int, Climate, Prem, Sport Pack, 18" Pegs, park distance and sattelite radio prep for $39,500<p>2006 Titanium Silver.....all same options minus the park distance for $38,750.<p>The silver car is a demo car and has ~1500 miles......<p>I recently missed out on a similar demo car +nav, ground effects ~1500 miles for $36999..... It was sold before I was able to make it to the dealer......<p>S60R's are hard to come by in WA State and I really don't see the $35,500 price that everyone seems to be getting on these cars around here? <p>Any suggestions? What are the current incentives anyway..... If I am going to pay $40K+ for a car I would rather get the new BMW 335 Ci w/ X drive.....<p>Thanks everyone.<p>Ted
 

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Good question. I told my friend about the deal for 10K off the R a week or so ago. I didn't read carefully enough I guess as he was told the V70R only has a 5K rebate and that's what he wants.<p>He's in the Seattle area too. I forwarded a few of the posts to him. He's only found one dealer in the area that says they can get him in an S60R for a lease payment of $400 less with $3K or less down.<p>marq528 posted this a week or so back. Now this sounds like a deal! Automatic, Preimium Pkg, 18" wheels for $339 lease with $2995 drive off? I'll believe it when I see a copy of the paperwork! This sounds more like bait from a cloaked dealer.<p>The following reply was posted by marq528:<p>So it seems this is a great community and I am proud to join - this is my first post of many to come. <br>I picked up my new 2006 S60 R yesterday. I am so happy with my decision and I'm sure many here will agree it was a great choice. <br>I finally decided on an Electric Silver on Bue/Blk Interior, Automatic, Premium Package, 18" Pegasus, Sirius prewire (ipod to come soon) <p>Needless to say the 10,500 lease incentive exists and I took full advantage of it. The lease was calculated down from a 44, 425 sticker price to Gross Cost of 28,000. Amazing. The numbers really worked in my favor, I believe- 36 mo, 12k mi, $2995 drive off, $339 (+tx) a month. <p>Please if you know anyone interested in a deal similar to what I got, give Farshid at Calabasas Volvo a chance. He was great to deal with and I know he'd appreciate your business. Tell him Mark referred you. <br>
 

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I am sure Seattle area is an exception to this lease deal as well <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> I am not so much interested in a lease but willing to lease an R for less than $350 a month for sure.... But like you said I am starting to doubt what people are saying all the time.... For the past 6 to 9 months I am yet to see a new S60R for less than $38K in seattle area..... (that is if you can find one to start with)
 

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This may or may not help, but I purchased a new S60R, (demo with 6000 miles on it that the GM drove) about four months ago for $37000 even plus TTL. It is an automatic and included the premium, climate, convenience packages with sat. radio prep and 18" wheels, electric silver and norkap interior. I thought it was a fair price even though it had 6000 miles on it. The car was spotless, no scratches or door dings, looked brand new and I am extremely anal and told them that before I flew to Austin to pick it up unseen. I have been very happy and had zero problems. I am also very happy with the dealership in Austin even though it is about a 3 hour drive from where I live I am even considering getting it serviced there. I would have bought the car anywhere that gave me the best deal(within reason) and had the color/car combination. I looked all over the US until I found the car I wanted and the price I was willing to pay as getting it shipped or just driving it is not a big deal to me.
 

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Re: So What are these "DEALS" that people are getting on S60R's (TG850T5R)

I leased a S60R yesterday. The MSRP was $47,890. It has all options except the aero package. The "negotiated price" was $35196.72. The mileage on the car was 40 miles. The dealer still has 5 at this price to lease. Purchase price was a little higher.<p>Last Friday I went to BMW to lease a 2006 330i. I had already worked with the dealer all the numbers except the trade-in and had the dealer get me a car with the exact colors and options I wanted. The problem was that they low-balled me terribly on my MY04 S60 NA trade-in. On Saturday I went to Volvo to have it appraised at the Used Car Sales Dept. They appraised at $17.5K that was $3.5K more than BMW. While at Volvo, my wife told me to check out the new cars. I found out about the incentives on the R and leased one for less than the 330i that didn't even have much equipment (e.g. no nav, no 18", no sport seats, no active suspension and a meager 255 HP). <p>BTW with the pending R lease they offered $18K for the S60 NA which corresponds to Kelly Blue Book "Good", $16k was "Fair". BMW got greedy, offered $14K, and lost a $40K sale. Just plain idiots.<p>I can also re-use my custom front sunshield and my rear sunscreen that I had bought from Volvo for the S60 NA.<p> <p><br>
 

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Re: So What are these "DEALS" that people are getting on S60R's (TG850T5R)

Black 06 S60R with everything except nav and with 17" pegs for $35,955 + TTL in March. Same dealer I got that from in OH has a similar deal now. <p>Black S60R for $35,955<br><A HREF="http://www.autobase.com/cgi/info.exe?bc=2126986" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobase.com/cgi/info.exe?bc=2126986</A><p>AND <br>Black V70R (GT) for $38,918<br><A HREF="http://www.autobase.com/cgi/info.exe?bc=2126987" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobase.com/cgi/info.exe?bc=2126987</A><p>Pat
 

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If you are going to modify your new S60R at all, I recommend taking a serious look at "R Salesman" 's S60R. The car has tasteful modifications, and I must be one of two people who ever sat in the backseat.<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=58147" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=58147</A><br>
 

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Re: So What are these "DEALS" that people are getting on S60R's (TG850T5R)

Capitalism is all about demand and supply. The demand is there but it is not distributed evenly. Look at the map on the owner registry link and how disproportionately higher the concentration of R owners is on the coasts.<p>My advice would be to print out a proximity dealer search, then get on the phone out of state looking eastward, and locate at least two Rs, then negotiate on the phone, then take the trip and settle for what you like. I got the 10k off deal too on a lease but the car was sitting on the lot for more than a month already.<p>Plead naive and tell them you dont know math, but want no money down except for first payment and less than 550/mo on a 3-4 yr lease.<p>Sorry, im not the expert, but this is how i get out of being suckered into calculator games by dealers. You know, the ones with tons of patience, crunching numbers on you on a minuscule white plastic Sharp Elsimate with a faded display until you dont know whether you're a boy or a girl anymore.<p>Anyway if a dealer cannot negotiate over the phones and then send you an email or fax confirming the deal, they are not worth seeing in person IMHO.<p>This is from a perpetual lessee, been at it for 10 years and never finished a lease so far (always got bought out as part of a new lease deal with little penalty) got to drive 5 very interesting automobiles, downside being clenching my teeth with envy reading all the fun mods that ive been missing out on. Far from perfect eh? Anyway, even the unmodded R is enough to put a halt to this though it is an awesome vehicle for me and the family.<p><i>Modified by Kandiru at 9:40 PM 7-3-2006</i><p><br><i>Modified by Kandiru at 9:41 PM 7-3-2006</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Kandiru at 9:43 PM 7-3-2006</i>
 

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Re: So What are these "DEALS" that people are getting on S60R's (TG850T5R)

There will not be an all wheel drive 335 Coupe . All wheel drive will be only offered on the 328xi Coupe when they arrive in September.
 

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Re: So What are these "DEALS" that people are getting on S60R's (TG850T5R)

V70R -- 6MT climate/convenience/premium/electric silver was offered about $38.2 less the $1k Volvo "loyalty" discount and the $500 VCOA rebate would bring it to $36.7, and I did NOT bite.<p>The 335i is rumored by an unreliable source to sticker at $49k with "every option". (Which would not be bad. If you check every option box on a 330i you can actually get the sticker up above $50k right now.)<p>The rumor is the '07 3er prices were finalized late Friday and should be out on Wednesday. My guess is $1500 more for the twin-turbo motor and $1500 more for the coupe body style, or about $46 as I would configure it. Less the $500 BWCCA rebate. Is it "worth" $10k more than a V70R? Dunno. BTW, if you have the time and the frequent flyer miles you can save a bundle doing European Delivery on a BMW -- more than any car that I know of. Porsche actually charges you extra for ED. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: So What are these "DEALS" that people are getting on S60R's (bill d cat)

On the 3 series, BMW charges $475 for fold down seats, $120 for floor mats. You must be really into the "driving experience" to justify a BMW vs almost any other car.
 

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Re: So What are these "DEALS" that people are getting on S60R's (BrunoS)

I've had a couple Volvos and one BMW...while the Volvo is certainly a nice car, it doesn't compare to the handling that a BMW gives on a regular basis. This, of course, has to be balanced with the $5-10K more you'd pay for a comparable BMW. The difference being mainly in the option pricing.
 

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I have a copy of the ad if anyone would like to see it, please PM me or email me. It's PDF since I scanned the fax they sent me - I dont know how to post it here. I can even type the terms of my contract if you tell me what info you'd like from it. I think I got a good deal and I would like to help anyone get the same. <br>I dont think it was bait since 5 are/were available and I've been driving mine for over a week now. As far as cloaked dealer, I dont know what that means so if you could please tell me I would appreciate it. <br>Thanks, <br>Mark. <p>
 

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Re: So What are these "DEALS" that people are getting on S60R's (cmdrstask)

How many paid close to sticker for the V70R and S60R when it was first introduced? The obvious reason that the cars are being so deeply discounted right now is that the demand isn't what Ford might have hoped.<p>If you walk into a BMW dealer and say "take me", they will be just as happy to as a Volvo dealer! (And they'll probably even use a better grade of lubricant than a Volvo dealer!)<p>1.) BMW's ED <i>retail</i> prices are substantially lower than US retail prices. BMW is hardly dumb in doing this, they get a huge amount of free advertising from the conversations around the water cooler. A BMW delivered in Munich and combined with a European vacation and speeding down the Autobahn starts a lot more conversations and is a lot more interesting than a car bought out of stock at the local dealer.<br>2.) Since the ED cars don't fall under a BMW dealer's allotment, there is a lot more wheeling and dealing that can be done with an ED sale. $500-$1500 above the ED invoice (not retail) is possible.<br>3.) The folding rear seat is bundled into the "cold weather package" with the seat heaters and headlight washers, (want it or not).<br>4.) All ED BMWs come equipped with floor mats and a warning triangle.<p>I'll take a guess that by 2010, a 2007 335i will have retained a greater percentage of its original price than a 2007 S60R or V70R, all other things (condition, miles, color) being equal.
 

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Re: So What are these "DEALS" that people are getting on S60R's (BrunoS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BrunoS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You must be really into the "driving experience" to justify a BMW vs almost any other car. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Around here it seems to be more the "be seen in experience" when it comes to BMW's, as I seem to get stuck behind most of them when they are slowly tooling around some great corners yacking on the cell, or watching birds, etc.
 

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Thanks for all the input and the feedback.... At this point I am not interested in leasing a car so $10K off deal is no good to me.... <p>I think I am going to wait until both the 2007 S60R and 335CI hits the showroom floors.... In my opinion both cars have ups and downs and I just wanted to make sure that people were not paying $30-$35K for a brand new S60R.....<p>Once again thanks for all the info <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Ted
 
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